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al-Qaeda is a ~front~
    #1133592 - 12/11/02 08:56 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It as simple as "Osama bin-Laden" is arabic for "Emmanuel Goldstein".


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Re: al-Qaeda is a ~front~ [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1133687 - 12/11/02 10:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Go fuck yourself.


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Re: al-Qaeda is a ~front~ [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1133836 - 12/11/02 11:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Its as simple as an Islamic Fundamentalist being a scapegoat for a Jew?

Go Figure..


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...YOU MORONS... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #1134481 - 12/12/02 07:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone that read 1984 should have picked up on Goldstein immediately...i didnt think anyone would be that obtuse.

George Orwell included an organization very similar to alQ in 1984. Its fictitious leader was named Emmanuel Goldstein. Orwell states that this Goldstein was once the #2 man in the Party. Likewise, OBL was once a high-level Reagan operative. Both orgs were broken up into "cells" with very little communication with their commanderss or other cells. Members believed they belonged to a genuine terrorist org, but in reality took their orders from govt agents not too far up the chain of command. In some cases the govt staged acts of terrorism that actually worked to its advantage (ie 9/11); other cells were simply captured and publicized. As such, the orgs kept the ppl terrorized for the govt; served as a trap for anyone that would dare challenge it; and made a convienent scapegoat.



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Re: ...YOU MORONS... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1134636 - 12/12/02 08:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Likewise, OBL was once a high-level Reagan operative.

could you expound a little on that, please? :confused:


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Re: ...YOU MORONS... [Re: htownkid28]
    #1134726 - 12/12/02 08:56 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Osama Bin Laden was an associate of the CIA and trained by them during the Reagan years...


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Re: ...YOU MORONS... [Re: Rono]
    #1134740 - 12/12/02 09:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i wouldn't exactly call that high level. high in the security clearance sense maybe. but it's not as if he was making decisions. there have been alot of shady individuals trained by the CIA over the years but that's the risk you take when you are in that kind of business.


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Re: ...YOU MORONS... [Re: htownkid28]
    #1134754 - 12/12/02 09:03 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

On the contrary...considering he was also funded largely by the CIA I would say that he made a great deal of decisions...


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Its not only OBL [Re: Rono]
    #1134903 - 12/12/02 10:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

but also the r?le alQ plays in our society vs. that of the Goldstein organization in Orwell. These appear to be very similar, which raises the possibility that like Goldstein, alQ might be just a front.


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Re: ...YOU MORONS... [Re: Rono]
    #1135431 - 12/12/02 01:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

whether or not he made decisions while being funded by the CIA still doesn't make him "high-level", though. that's the point i was trying to make. btw, that video clip of the guy smashing the other guy's head at the bottom of your post is fuckin hypnotic! my eyes are just drawn to it like a magnet. i can't stop myself from staring at for minutes on end. just thought i'd let you know.  :wink:


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Re: al-Qaeda is a ~front~ [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1135939 - 12/12/02 04:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I saw Jello Biafra speak a few months ago and he brought up this exact point. It's not like it would be first time the US did something like this. We created a whole "incident" to start the Vietnam fiasco, for example. Jello brought up another example, but I did't really know what he was referring to at the time so I don't remember much of it. But it always did seem strange to me how public bin Laden had been. Take the rulers of the US for example: they don't make themselves known, they don't go on interviews for local radio stations or anything like that. They hid in the shadows while their spokesmen, like Bush and Daschle, do all the talking. It has always seemed to me that bin Laden was merely a puppet for something else, either the CIA or some satanic Communist/Islamic conspiracy or aliens or whatever. But it's so much easier to hate something when we attach a name and a face to it.
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