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Holocaust & Slavery
    #11335192 - 10/28/09 12:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone believe the holocaust was because of slavery? like since the blacks were enslaved the whites were put through the holocaust to even things out between the 2 race


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: giza]
    #11335381 - 10/28/09 12:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:congrats:


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: AlphaFalfa]
    #11335646 - 10/28/09 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Blacks enslaved blacks
Arabs enslaved blacks and europeans
Europeans enslaved blacks
Europeans gave shit to the jews for all of history

No it doesn't really add up.


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: learningtofly]
    #11335650 - 10/28/09 01:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Jews =/= mainstream Western gentile culture "white people"


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: Mchaggis]
    #11335717 - 10/28/09 01:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah jews aren't really considered white.


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: giza]
    #11335739 - 10/28/09 01:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Punish the children for the sins of their fathers?  That sounds like some old world crap.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: learningtofly]
    #11335750 - 10/28/09 01:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
yeah jews aren't really considered white.




Unless its the Israel/Palestine issue, then they are the white oppressor.  It basically depends on if they are perceived as the oppressor or the victim whether they will be considered white or not.  (or is it the other way around?...)


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: giza]
    #11335758 - 10/28/09 01:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Charles Manson said that Hitler had cleared the Jews of their karma for killing Jesus.  But Manson is a psychotic asshole, so fuck him and fuck anti-semitism.


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: DieCommie]
    #11335799 - 10/28/09 01:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
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learningtofly said:
yeah jews aren't really considered white.




Unless its the Israel/Palestine issue, then they are the white oppressor.  It basically depends on if they are perceived as the oppressor or the victim whether they will be considered white or not.  (or is it the other way around?...)




If they're white, why do white supremacists think they are scum? Jews = Israeli = middle eastern. that's not white.

edit: i guess you could say they are considered white when it's convenient to blame something on them.

EDIT again: are we forgetting that throughout history jews have been shit on by europe?


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: giza]
    #11335959 - 10/28/09 02:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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giza said:
Anyone believe the holocaust was because of slavery? like since the blacks were enslaved the whites were put through the holocaust to even things out between the 2 race




This would make sense if you thought that there were two races in the world: blacks, and jews.

Is this what you believe?

Seriously, the Holocaust was just one example of what occurs all over the world all the time - dominant groups extinguishing groups who have been identified with their social problems. this has to do with humanity's need to reproduce and survive at levels faster than can be supported by the environment. There must always be a culling of society, and this traditionally occurs amongst the most identifiable minority that poses some sort of threat to the dominant group. Usually, indigenous peoples. Sometimes, refugee groups. Other times, religious factions.

The only difference is that HITLER was an amazing man who commanded more power than most other leaders.

He blamed most problems on the jews, and the jews were very influential because they controlled a lot of wealth, since the jews were one of the few cultures that made literacy compulsory for all males (throughout the dark ages that is). Thus you have this group of people that a)are easily identifiable b)have their own political alliances c)are potentially threatening d)can be associated with negative qualities in society due to the fact that they draw wealth out of economies and keep it within their own jewish communities and e)killed jesus. With this all in mind, it made the jews number one candidate for cleansing, to make way for Hitlers new world order.


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Re: Holocaust & Slavery [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11337859 - 10/28/09 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The Holocaust wasn't some karma pay back because of slavery. They we're just two separate events. Keep in mind slavery and genocide have been around for centuries, it just seems that the African slave trade and the holocaust are the only examples often mentioned due to the focus point in schools.


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