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Re: citizens united v FEC ..the end of the world?... [Re: Redstorm]
    #11333185 - 10/27/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
So, in other words, you can not refute Zappa's point without misconstruing it?




What he said.


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Re: citizens united v FEC ..the end of the world?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #11333205 - 10/27/09 05:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
the example shows that at least wrt electioneering..zappas' point is exactly as i have construed it .."you can talk..as long as nobody can hear it"...




No. The example clearly shows that drugs/booze were not good to you.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: citizens united v FEC ..the end of the world?... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11333560 - 10/27/09 06:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
lets examine the ramifications of zappa with a hypothetical example ..

suppose that candidates P and Q are running for a given office...scamcorp INC.. which supports P.. owns the only microphone in town..and is free to turn it on and off at will...since..according to zappa..Q "has no right to be listened to"..then its not that hard to guess what scamcorp is going to do when its Qs turn to speak...

the example shows that at least wrt electioneering..zappas' point is exactly as i have construed it .."you can talk..as long as nobody can hear it"...



I have yet to see you support any contention that giving me free speech prevents you from speaking.  And no, nobody has a right to be listened to.  Stupid, boring, ignorant assholes are routinely ignored.  As they should be.  Do you think I should be forced to read posts by morons?


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Re: citizens united v FEC ..the end of the world?... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11334414 - 10/27/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

>> I have yet to see you support any contention that giving me free speech prevents you from speaking.

i never said any such thing...stop putting words into my mouth...

>> And no, nobody has a right to be listened to.

then its a catch-22...see my earlier post...

>> Stupid, boring, ignorant assholes are routinely ignored.

and how the hell is anyone supposed to make that judgement without listening to them long enough to determine that they are in fact..SBIAs??...and who are you to make that judgement for them..as in my example above....

>> As they should be.

maybe they should..but too often this is not the case..as witness the entire cast of faux news.. along with more mundane SBIAs such as LDL...

>> Do you think I should be forced to read posts by morons?

why not..since your already forced to write them...


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Re: citizens united v FEC ..the end of the world?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #11334528 - 10/27/09 08:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
>> I have yet to see you support any contention that giving me free speech prevents you from speaking.

i never said any such thing...stop putting words into my mouth...




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suppose that candidates P and Q are running for a given office...scamcorp INC.. which supports P.. owns the only microphone in town..and is free to turn it on and off at will..




C'mon sweetheart, that's exactly what you said.
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>> And no, nobody has a right to be listened to.

then its a catch-22...see my earlier post...




?
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>> Stupid, boring, ignorant assholes are routinely ignored.

and how the hell is anyone supposed to make that judgement without listening to them long enough to determine that they are in fact..SBIAs??...and who are you to make that judgement for them..as in my example above....



OK.  Brilliant fascinating and important assholes are ignored all the time, as well.  What are you gonna do?  Strap me in a chair and play Beethoven with my eyelids wedged open while you play a video of maggots devouring a human corpse?  You have no right to be listened to.  You should thank me for the courtesy I accord you by reading your drivel.  You should thank me even more for responding and continuing my earnest efforts to dissuade you from your fascism.
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>> As they should be.

maybe they should..but too often this is not the case..as witness the entire cast of faux news.. along with more mundane SBIAs such as LDL...




Friends don't let friends post drunk.  Find a friend somewhere.
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>> Do you think I should be forced to read posts by morons?

why not..since your already forced to write them...




:banbanban:

Really, toots, that was unseemly.


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