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OfflineDrevrens
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    #11330119 - 10/27/09 10:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hello everyone,

I am new to mycology. I started some pf-tek jars almost 2 weeks ago and I followed the tek to the T. The jars have been sitting at 78-80 degrees for the hole time. They look the same as they did 13 days ago. No contams and no myc. I got my syringes from a local store. I am trying to figure out what I could possible have done wrong but I am still coming up empty handed.

About a week ago I started getting inpatient about not seeing anything happen so I thought I would try grain. I watched the videos that RR made and I think I pretty well followed them to the R. lol I used a new syringe for these jars that I got from the same store.

I left 4 jars in my PC with out pc'ing them (because I got really busy and didn't have time to wait for them to PC so I kept putting it off) I just looked in there this morning and 3 of the jars are canonized with
green forest mold and one is fully colonized with some white stuff that looks like mycelium... obviously I did not Inoculate these jars they hadn't been pc'ed yet but if something is growing in there so I know my substrates are good. So could the missing link be the syringes?

I don't want to think that the store I got them from is bad news because if you knew what it was you would think they would have 100% bang on stuff.

Any help on this would be very much appreciated. I just cant figure out why nothing is happening.

The only difference between the jars that have the contams in them is I did not PC them and I did not inoculate them. So I know my Substrate must be ok if something is growing and I know that the jars I did inoculate where sterilized because there are no contams in them (yet)lol.

Thanks everyone,
Drevren


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Drevrens]
    #11330130 - 10/27/09 10:16 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hit up a sponsor: http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php
Personally, I am a fan of SporeWorks but any of the Shroomery Sponsors will treat you well.


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Doc_T]
    #11330453 - 10/27/09 11:39 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yea use a sponsor or maybe :pm: someone in the community and they would probably hook you up. :shrug:


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: truskool]
    #11330470 - 10/27/09 11:43 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

i got you. send me a pm. in return i want a grow log posted.


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: truskool]
    #11330484 - 10/27/09 11:47 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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truskool said:
:pm: someone in the community and they would probably hook you up. :shrug:




Not the best advice, really. Unless you are saying "PM me", in which case you should say that.


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Doc_T]
    #11330522 - 10/27/09 11:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

yea thanks but im sure drevrens understood wat i was saying


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: truskool]
    #11330554 - 10/27/09 12:01 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I just wanted to clarify for the public, that's all. :smile:
I don't know about you, but I've had unsolicited requests for things. Gripes me pretty hard.


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Doc_T]
    #11330593 - 10/27/09 12:07 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Did you let the jars cool over night before you inoculated?  Maybe that or something else killed off your spores before they had a chance.

Recent (first time) experience shows two different strains from Ralphsters popping within 5 days.


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Doc_T]
    #11330677 - 10/27/09 12:23 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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I just wanted to clarify for the public, that's all. :smile:
I don't know about you, but I've had unsolicited requests for things. Gripes me pretty hard.



O yea for sure ive had requests for some pretty wack shit.  No matter to me.  drevrens knows wats good


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: truskool]
    #11330797 - 10/27/09 12:48 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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yea thanks but im sure drevrens understood wat i was saying





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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Melmo42]
    #11330807 - 10/27/09 12:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

80 is WAY too hot.. Don't let them go over 72-73F.

The myceilum gives off heat so if its 80 outside the jar, its atleast 82-84 inside...

Room temp = BEST (68-72F)

Lower the temp and you'll be amazed!


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Nuzzle]
    #11330814 - 10/27/09 12:53 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I'm a n00b but mine grew great incubated at 86...


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Doppelgangerbanger]
    #11330853 - 10/27/09 01:01 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Holy shit!!! I find that HARD to believe. Anytime I had a spike in temp above 80, my jars stalled and took about 3 weeks to regroup and get their shit back together.

I learned the hard way never to let my temps get above 72F


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Nuzzle]
    #11330860 - 10/27/09 01:02 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Just lucky i guess? :confused:


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Doppelgangerbanger]
    #11330876 - 10/27/09 01:05 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

a higher temp does increase colonization time but at the same point it also  greatly increases the chance of contaims


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: truskool]
    #11330899 - 10/27/09 01:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I've ran through a 4 batches of pf jars and now 2 batches of wbs jars all incubated at 86.  The reason I did it was for that reason exactly, to increase colonization times.  I have yet to have a contam yet so until then I'm gonna keep doing it :smile:


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Nuzzle]
    #11330910 - 10/27/09 01:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Well this is what my stuff looks like after 2 weeks for the BRF and 1 week for the Rye.





Took one out of the jar. It is still moist but there is nothing going on inside... The only white stuff I saw looked like clumps of BRF.


Cut it open to see if anything was happening inside.



This was one of the uninoculated un presure cooked ones It scared me I didnt want to touch it. looks like a spider web or something yikes


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Drevrens]
    #11330924 - 10/27/09 01:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

i love pictures


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Melmo42]
    #11330948 - 10/27/09 01:17 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Where did you get your spores from? Maybe you got some bunk shit... You should be showing signs of SOMETHING, even if it is weak looking.

Granted, my PF Redspore took about 3 weeks just to see signs of mycil


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Re: 2 weeks... [Re: Melmo42]
    #11330977 - 10/27/09 01:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

by reading your post and seeing the pictures i would have
to say that your syringes are at fault

take the advice of the others that suggested a sponsor
they will not let you down
if they do they will replace your product free of charge

also PC those jars that are contaminated
for 90 min before tossing them

this will kill the mold and you wont have
to worry about spreading it around your house

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