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So stinky everytime!
    #11329466 - 10/27/09 04:01 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This is my first post, I hope I'm in the right place.

So I'm using the pf tek method and everything was going great on my first batch that I was PCing (no smell out of pc)

On my second jars (16 1/2 pint) that I PCed as soon I let out the steam and opened the top I smelled stinky butter cheese nastyness. Also the substrain had a different color much much browner this time. Didn't know any better so I injected spores in them. I got to reading the forums on bad smells and everyone was saying to throw the jars out before it gets to any jars that don't havea contam. So I did...

Just got done trying to pc 16 more jars, opened it and that same damn smell and discoloration is there. What makes this happen? What can I change? Help help help!!!!

Hope someone can help me out.
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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329478 - 10/27/09 04:06 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

how long do you PC for?

and what substrate?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: avorg]
    #11329481 - 10/27/09 04:08 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

90 min at 15psi. I did this with the first batch too and they were fine.


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329490 - 10/27/09 04:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

90 min might be excessive...

you won't have a contam right after PC'ing, did it smell anything like cooking rice?

when a smell from the jar is mentioned it is usually after some time colonizing(after inoculation), not as it is done getting PC'ed.


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329492 - 10/27/09 04:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

If you allow the PC to run out of water burning can happen and cause a nasty smell that is near impossible to get out of the PC. Has there always been water left on the bottom?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329493 - 10/27/09 04:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Oh sorry the substrain was verm and brown rice flower


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329503 - 10/27/09 04:15 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah there was still water in there each time.


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329507 - 10/27/09 04:17 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

RR says:
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As are most PCs, but if you fail to turn down the stove when pressure is reached, the moisture is puked out of your grain jars.  Remember, whenever the weight rattles to let off steam,  moisture/steam also escapes from your jars, and this can burst the grains.  The idea is to reach 15 psi and then not have the weight rattle, hiss, or whatever your brand of PC does.  Too many people around here try to follow the instructions for canning, which say to let the weight rattle several times per minute.  That's not appropriate when sterilizing grains.
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Im pretty sure it applies to the PF-tek jars also.

your covering with foil?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329509 - 10/27/09 04:18 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

It didn't smell like cooking rice. It was kind of a butter cheese smell but very funky you wouldn't want this on your popcorn


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329514 - 10/27/09 04:19 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I'd guess they were overcooked...  :shrug:


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329519 - 10/27/09 04:21 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yep foils on


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329528 - 10/27/09 04:23 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

The first batch was fine. So you think the first time was just luck or something?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329533 - 10/27/09 04:24 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Most likely. Were these tries successive or did the PC have time to cool down completely before you fire it up again?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329534 - 10/27/09 04:24 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

did you clean out the PC after cooking the first time? If not then that's your answer.


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329535 - 10/27/09 04:26 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I think your fine, you just got noob nerves, inoculate 1 of the questionable jars and if it works they should all be fine.


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329536 - 10/27/09 04:26 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Did you use a different syringe or spores in the second lot?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: Nobitte]
    #11329539 - 10/27/09 04:27 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Did you use a different syringe or spores in the second lot?




Huh? I thought we were at pre-inoc stage here...


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: deachy]
    #11329540 - 10/27/09 04:27 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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deachy said:
It didn't smell like cooking rice. It was kind of a butter cheese smell but very funky you wouldn't want this on your popcorn



butter cheese? like the flavored crust at the local pizza place?


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: avorg]
    #11329541 - 10/27/09 04:28 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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avorg said:
did you clean out the PC after cooking the first time? If not then that's your answer.




Ive never cleaned my PC, been using it for 9 months now.  smells like rye berries....smells like cloves and cinnamon.:stoned:


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Re: So stinky everytime! [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11329542 - 10/27/09 04:29 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Some people clean some people don't, this could cause a smell but either has no effect on your product. Some (like me) are just more anal than others.


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