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Offlinekooteneer
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some expert ID'ing needed...
    #11328551 - 10/27/09 01:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hi there.  Back from my first hunt ever, near Nakusp, BC.  Apparently the season there was basically over as they've had some frost, they pick pines and a lot of white chanterelles there commercially although I was told that it wasn't a good year.  Chanterelles were definitely a focus as they're delicious.  But mostly I wanted to join in all the cyan action.  Big fan of my yearly 4-5 gram trip but didn't have one this summer.

I did a bunch of research (a good chunk of it on this site) and looked at a lot of pictures and had a good idea of what I was looking for.  Saw tons of poisonous galerinas but I thought I had found one single, lone cyan.  It seemed to stain a kind of purple, very faint.  Just did a spore print, and it turned rusty brown.  Struck out.  There were SO many look-alikes out there though.

However I found some lobsters, some oysters, some coral (most of which we cooked with steak and wine sauce tonight, delicious) and then these mystery mushrooms:




This first one seems very likely.  It was stained a bit blue in the ground, and much more now that I've handled it.  I forgot to bring latex gloves and last night after we picked I felt a little bit of a body high I believe, from something I handled.  I don't recognize this from any photos though... the ground I don't recall, i guess the forest around it was cedar/hemlock mostly... but the spore print I just took is purplish.  Any idea what it is?




I have a few of these.  I'm kind of skeptical but I thought I'd pick them and ask about em.  Not sure how well the photo shows it but there's purplish coloration near the tops, and also stained a bit purple when handled.  Not exactly blue though.  The spore print was purplish as well. 




Lastly, I'm curious what this one is.  It's very large, a bit gross and ugly, probably a bit rotten but doesn't really stink yet.  once again, a bit of purplish staining once again, after I scored it, you can see it a little in the photo.  I forgot to cover this one to do a spore print but when i took it off the paper there was an ink-like stain that was purplish.

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11328583 - 10/27/09 01:05 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

this resembles the P. cyans but if you are ever in question of the P. Cyan always throw out. they are a tricky breed. please do not ingest. also i am not a professional.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: dguiles1]
    #11328607 - 10/27/09 01:11 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

#1 Could be Lactarius deliciosus?

Check for orange milky stuff coming out when you slice the gills.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: dguiles1]
    #11328633 - 10/27/09 01:16 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

hmm it might be actually, it was just too big to be one i thought.  wasn't caramel brown in colour but i've seen that the older the get the lighter in colour they can be.  yeah i definitely won't try it without a positive ID here but since it's turning so very blue, i have high hopes.  this one find alone might be enough to give me the experience i wanted although it is drying out.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11328651 - 10/27/09 01:19 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

naw when i broke it open just now there's just the blue outer ring, the middle is white.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: dguiles1]
    #11329074 - 10/27/09 02:39 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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this resembles the P. cyans but if you are ever in question of the P. Cyan always throw out. they are a tricky breed. please do not ingest. also i am not a professional.




Cyans are probably some of the easiest to identify...

Also, you don't get a body high from picking mushrooms....
Those are not Cyanescens.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: Anthony917]
    #11329114 - 10/27/09 02:45 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i've been told that one can get high from picking mushrooms without wearing gloves.  when i get weak shrooms all i get is a body high.  however it might have just been the excitement of the hunt that day, i really enjoy the process.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: Anthony917]
    #11329119 - 10/27/09 02:46 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

No active mushroom there.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11329157 - 10/27/09 02:52 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

what's that first one though?  why does it turn so blue?  from what i'm reading now it seems rare for a blue-staining mushroom to be poisonous so it's tempting to try.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11329505 - 10/27/09 04:15 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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This first one seems very likely.  It was stained a bit blue in the ground, and much more now that I've handled it.




Probably Lactarius deliciosus.

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but the spore print I just took is purplish.




Nah.  Read this:

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/spore_print.html

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Not sure how well the photo shows it but there's purplish coloration near the tops, and also stained a bit purple when handled.  Not exactly blue though.




Maybe Macrocystidia cucumis.

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The spore print was purplish as well. 




Not a chance with those white gills.



The third one may be a bolete.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11329550 - 10/27/09 04:34 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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This first one seems very likely.  It was stained a bit blue in the ground, and much more now that I've handled it.




Probably Lactarius deliciosus.



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but the spore print I just took is purplish.




Nah.  Read this:

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/spore_print.html





doesn't seem possible to be a Lactarius deliciosus as the outside colour is off as well no orange milky inside.  just blue and white.

as for the spore print making link, not sure what you're saying... i've read that page before and i had a very recognizable purple print.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11329589 - 10/27/09 05:00 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

You asked for expert advise and you got it.

See those "Trusted Identifier" tags?  You can't get those at Walmart.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11329635 - 10/27/09 05:41 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

he seems knowledgeable, but #1 doesn't seem to have a main identifier of deliciosus.  that one is edible though right?


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11329644 - 10/27/09 05:51 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

while i don't understand why they'd both identify this mushroom as a deliciousus when it's not orange, it does however closely resemble its cousin...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lactarius_rubrilacteus.jpg

and yes the colouring is a greenish shade of blue, but still it looks to my not-so-trained i a very similar shading to the magic mushrooms i've ingested.  it's not fragrant though.

the rubrilacteus while not supposedly tasty isn't poisonous if people say it's one or the other i might try it.


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Re: some expert ID'ing needed... [Re: kooteneer]
    #11329674 - 10/27/09 06:26 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

also the second one isn't Macrocystidia cucumis, i saw many of #2 out there of various sizes and they all had the same round grey patterns on top, cucumis isn't even the same shape, it's my fault though i didn't take a pic directly from the top.  thanks for your help though guys.


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