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OfflineHumidity
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U.S. will use NUKES!
    #1132584 - 12/11/02 02:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I saw on the news today that the U.S. will use Nukes if a weapon of mass distruction is used against us. I think that if it came down to it, it would be the worst mistake the U.S. has ever made. It may even start WWIII and end the world as we know it.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1132589 - 12/11/02 02:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So if someone nuked us, would you rather just fart in their general direction?


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Anonymous]
    #1132596 - 12/11/02 02:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well, would nuking them make things any better?

Pretty much definately not.

Nuclear winter, motherfucker, let's make snowangels.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Phluck]
    #1132673 - 12/11/02 03:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1132681 - 12/11/02 03:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Using nukes because Saddam kneed the Americans below the belt would be an act of rage, not justice (in the American sense). Bush logic: Libya, Syria, and Iran have dubious regimes, so they must be invaded to 'protect American citizens'.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Anonymous]
    #1132839 - 12/11/02 04:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"So if someone nuked us, would you rather just fart in their general direction?"

Iraq doesn't have nukes, at least not a usable device.
They may have chemical and biological, however.

So basically, Bush is saying he would use nukes on a civilian population if Saddam uses chemical or biological on an invading military force. I wish there WERE a hell because that's where Bushie boy would roast for a good long time if he did that.

If the United States nukes a civilian population (again) I swear to god I'll leave the country and renounce my citizenship.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1132841 - 12/11/02 04:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I thought I heard we will nuke them if they try and nuke any country around them, like Saudi Arabia for letting us use their borders and whatnot...

The rhetoric those public addressors spit out is fuckin pathetic... I don't even know what all the words mean and I can tell its just empty meaningless crap to feed to the sheep.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Anonymous]
    #1132879 - 12/11/02 04:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You can't just kill millions of innocent people just to "get even" or to try and eliminate Saddam. Unfortunatly I think Bush and his Regime are willing to do just about anything.

Saddam will use his stuff if we attack.
We will use ours if he uses his.
It is a lose lose situation.

Regarless if it happens millions of innocent people will die becase of George Bush and his thist for oil.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1133089 - 12/11/02 05:42 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It seems obvious to me that Bush is just trying to force Saddam to use any weapons he may or may not have. I mean seriously...look at it this way...Iraq is bending over fucking backwards to try to appeast the U.S. war machine, but even after doing so, and even despite the fact that nothing has been found, Bush still makes a bullshit statement like that??? Does no-one else find this odd? Bush is obviously trying to start something...


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Rono]
    #1137585 - 12/13/02 07:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

lets not forget Hiroshima, its not like it hasn't happened before...

btw. back in the day, when i was lil, i got the shaquiel O neil rap cd

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and he mentioned 'dropping bombs like hiroshima' not that it is relevent, but i finally get to vent about it... shaqs a fucking moron idiot dumb fuck basketball player that can't carry a tune! i spit on him!
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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1137597 - 12/13/02 07:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

This policy has always been in effect, they're just reiterating it.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1137638 - 12/13/02 07:21 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

just because they are nukes does not mean they are weapons of "mass" destruction. The military has been developing missles called bunker busters. These are 'small' nuclear weapons designed to bust through caves and such or very fortified compounds. They are more powerful than conventional weapons, but there main purpose is not to kill thousands of people. It is more of a way to keep the enemy from fleeing into caves and mountains. America does not build that many bombs like the ones used in Japan anymore. They are more intrested in Precise and powerful weapons that eliminate only the people that need to be eliminated.

If somebody used weapons of mass destruction on the US that would be the start of world war three not US's retaliation(sp).


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Humidity]
    #1137743 - 12/13/02 08:15 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It's the same propaganda they used in the first "persian gulf distraction" to make Saddam appear like he could possibly, under any stretch of the imagination, ever in a million years be a threat to the US military. It's designed to whip up public opinion, nothing more.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: ehud]
    #1138594 - 12/13/02 01:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Mini-nukes dont exist yet.
On a different thread, Ehud called for Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinians.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: ehud]
    #1139237 - 12/13/02 05:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

the ones used in japan are weak compared to what some of our large class nuclear submarines carry. i believe the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were like 10 kilotons, i forget how many the huge subs carry, but its a SHITLOAD more. i saw it on the history channel. good channel.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: AJ420]
    #1139383 - 12/13/02 06:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The bombs dropped on Japan relied on nuclear fission.
The bombs of today rely on nuclear fusion.
The bombs of today are about 100 times as powerful as those dropped on Japan.


I think they should develop an anti-matter fusion bomb (fusing a critical mass of nuclear materials with a critical mass of it's anti-matter equivalent, anti-plutonium/anti-uranium) and give 1 to each country. Since 1 device would probally be powerful enough to destroy the entire planet......no one will fuck with anyone


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: ehud]
    #1139578 - 12/13/02 09:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

This is an interesting piece of work, if you haven't seen it already...THE EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS

So, the bunker buster is a kinder, gentler nuclear weapon eh?

Somehow, I don't feel better about it, it would still leave shitloads of radioactive fallout...and further proliferate the greatest threat to the human race. Not something we should dabble with. Plus, nuking nations for oil would probably set a new low in the human experience.

The day the US uses nukes will be a new chapter in history. Maybe the last chapter.



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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1140144 - 12/14/02 06:01 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well put Carbon.


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: Zahid]
    #1141329 - 12/14/02 04:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I love the smell of roasted pork in the morning.  It smells like VICTORY. :blush:





 


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Re: U.S. will use NUKES! [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1141342 - 12/14/02 04:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You would be singing a different tune if a paraquat scud hit BC.


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