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Update/question on my grow.
    #11324634 - 10/26/09 03:49 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Alright my problem lies in the colonization rate in the jars. Some are super good while others are lagging behind. For starters the syringes I received were skimpy on spore content but that could just be my opinion. But that may or may not have something to do with why the jars are going at different rates so its worth a mention. I injected all the jars at the same time and they were all filled with the same batch of brf/verm so I don't think that is the problem but once again worth a mention. They all got tape taken off at the same time and are all kept in the chamber at an average of 85 degrees give or take a couple. Also a thing I am proud of since its my first grow is that there are no contaminations in any single jar thus far so I am just throwing that in as well. But here are some pictures of what I am talking about...

This is the temp of incubation chamber and how they jars are set up in there. I dont know if their placement has an effect on anything but I didnt think that it would. And I am prety sure 85 is an acceptible medium for the temp so here is that picture:


Here is one of the jars that is not going so fast compaired to the others. There are a few others that are like this but the majority are going at a medium pace. But needless to say I would have thought since they were injected at the same time and syringes were from the same sponser that they would be closer togeather for colonization rate:


This is what the average jar looks like in the incubation chamber. I would say about 50% are looking like this, 30% are looking like the one above and the other 20% would be the picture below this one. But anyways here is a picture of the average jar I have going:


And here is a picture of one of the 20% that really make me smile when I check up on my babies. Mind you that the jars looking like this are not like that the whole way around but still they are the prime of my current grow. So here it is:


As I type this I was thinking of one more thing worth an mention that I didnt above. I check them daily by removing the top for about 20-30 minutes to let some major air exchange. There are little slit like openings on the top brim of the container that allow for air to get in in out but not as well as if the top was off. Maybe this effects something? But that would be for all not some I would think. Alright well any input on this would be great! Or if this is just normally how things go during colonization just let me know, but I just wanted to make sure.


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: shroom239]
    #11324684 - 10/26/09 03:56 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

your stalling the growth with heat. get your temps down to room temp.

70-78F is the range you need.

myc creates its own heat when colonizing so the internal temps are pushing 90+ :eek:

your temps are slowing the process down and contams like warm temps.

80F is pushing it and your way above that.


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11324708 - 10/26/09 03:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Plus the jars look a bit wet.


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: shroom239]
    #11324712 - 10/26/09 04:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

so the race was the same but different syringes?  MS is some random genetics.  IMO syringes that are skimpy are best.  Less genetic competition.  You only need two spores to get colonization.  Overall MS innoculations can be sketchy shit doesnt colonize the same this will pretty much happen to some extent.  To be honest tho your jars are very diverse they seem far apart to me.  I dont do cakes anymore.  The GE that they are receiving seems fine.  I would suggest not to incubate but if you are drop the temp to like 81F


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: truskool]
    #11324863 - 10/26/09 04:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Alright thanks for the input and I made the following adjustments by lowering the temperature on the water heater. Hopefully this will help thing out, I will check the temp in about an hour to make sure their in the correct ballpark. But from what I am getting since these are out of three different syringes, well actually about two and a half, there is going to be a different grow rate?


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: shroom239]
    #11324927 - 10/26/09 04:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

yeah when starting with spores you get a genitic roll of the dice everytime so you dont know what will happen from jar to jar or mushroom to mushroom.

once you get a couple grows under your belt look into agar to be able to isolate or clone to get your desired trates. :strokebeard:


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11324974 - 10/26/09 04:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I have been watching the chapters on the "Lets grow mushrooms!" DVD my buddy gave me on the agar isolation. It seems pretty clean cut but I am going to hold off on it for a brief period of time until I feel more comfortable with the basics.


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: shroom239]
    #11324984 - 10/26/09 04:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: shroom239]
    #11324985 - 10/26/09 04:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I have been watching the chapters on the "Lets grow mushrooms!" DVD my buddy gave me on the agar isolation. It seems pretty clean cut but I am going to hold off on it for a brief period of time until I feel more comfortable with the basics.





step by step thats how you learn.

I bought that dvd, its golden. :super:


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11325511 - 10/26/09 06:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I like that color agar tek and think I will incorporate that food coloring idea into a recipe that is actually complete. But its been a little over an hour and a half and the temps are as follows....

On the base of the chamber:


On top of the jars:


Ont the bottom of the jars:


You can see where its reading its temps by looking at the little red laser beam.


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Re: Update/question on my grow. [Re: shroom239]
    #11325550 - 10/26/09 06:18 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Lotz mo betta.  :super:


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