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CakeBaker
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Presto vs All-American
#11323479 - 10/26/09 10:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know All-American pressure cookers are the most popular to to use, but have you guys had any experience with the Presto brand pressure cookers? The 23 quart Presto is half the cost of its All-American counterpart. I would rather spend that difference in price on supplies such as agar, petri dishes, etc.
This the pressure cooker I'm considering:
http://www.amazon.com/Presto-23-Quart-Aluminum-Pressure-Cooker/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323513 - 10/26/09 10:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats the one i use and i love it i can fit 10 QT jars in there at a time
it does kinda suck if you only need to PC something small like LC or agar because it is so big
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323520 - 10/26/09 10:45 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Half the price for a made in china PC is not a bargain. You'll spend the other half of the price on gaskets and other parts during the first five years, and you'll still be stuck with a made in china PC. Pony up the $$ now and have something that will last a lifetime. RR
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All American does seem to be the best of the best, but I've had nothing but success with my (old) presto. Keep in mind I got it on eBay and it is NOT a new one, so maybe the older ones are better? I don't know. It's stainless steel too. Very sturdy. And I cook in it!
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323554 - 10/26/09 10:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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CakeBaker said:
The 23 quart Presto is half the cost of its All-American counterpart.
that depends on where you buy your AA at...
I got a brand new AA925 still in the box, off the craiglist for $125.00, last year.
I've seen great deals on used AA's on the Craiglist and Ebay.
Several years ago I got a brand new AA930 off Ebay for $200.00 including shipping.
There are good deals out there if you look for them.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: Roadkill]
#11323580 - 10/26/09 10:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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off the craigslist that the kids love so much?
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CakeBaker
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323634 - 10/26/09 11:08 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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noobie and Myco: Thanks for your Presto info.
Slimz: Thanks also, but the whole idea of "vintage" to me translates to "old". I always prefer to buy new if possible. Plus I'm looking for one that can house 10 quarts. Those seemed a little small. I will definitely keep searching, though.
RR and Roadkill: I'm new, but I have been reading and reading here very thoroughly. One thing that I can confidently say is that you two are very respected in the community. I value both your opinions on this matter and I will take your advice with the All-American. I just need to search around for a good deal. Worst case scenario, do you think $199.00 for the AA 921 from Amazon is fair?
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323653 - 10/26/09 11:15 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know you were asking RR and Road, but 199.00 is quite good. Free shipping?
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RogerRabbit
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$200 for a brand new AA 921 is a great deal.
It should also be noted that 'old' presto and mirro pressure cookers were made in USA and high quality. It's only within the last ten years they've outsourced production to china and have become crap. RR
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Slimz
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CakeBaker.. i do appreciate your POV as far as vintage = Old
but i must say that the all american uses the same technology as the old ones..
i have 2 vintage cookers
and both work perfectly.
i use them daily
the national can hold 20 PSI
the All American is great, but not much different from many of the older ones. Its just a good name. (like national and burpee)
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Yeah, for an AA that's good. I haven't had anything bad with my Presto, I'm perfectly happy with it- but I'd get the AA at that price.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: Slimz]
#11323685 - 10/26/09 11:20 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I likes me old used AA
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CakeBaker
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323710 - 10/26/09 11:24 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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BUY IT!!! shit for 100 bucks more than the presto for something you will have forever thats a hell of a deal
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CakeBaker
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323712 - 10/26/09 11:24 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone on your views.
At $199.00 w/free shipping, I think I've found my answer.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: Doc_T]
#11323723 - 10/26/09 11:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have the presto 23 qrt. Works well,tho I want a all american PC there solid.
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CakeBaker
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323761 - 10/26/09 11:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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For $10.00 more should I go for the 925?
Or is that pointless when using quarts?
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323799 - 10/26/09 11:43 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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link?
-noobie-
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323812 - 10/26/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, I would think the All Americans hold a better resale value.
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cyb3rtr0n
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Quote:
noobieshroomie said: link?
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sponsors sell PC's, so I think links are not allowed.
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CakeBaker
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11323888 - 10/26/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats still one hell of a deal
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: $200 for a brand new AA 921 is a great deal.
It should also be noted that 'old' presto and mirro pressure cookers were made in USA and high quality. It's only within the last ten years they've outsourced production to china and have become crap. RR
I have an all steel 16quart Presto model-7b from around 1965. made in wisconsin and very very heavy and sturdy. bought a new gasket and it works like new. very very good investment.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11324046 - 10/26/09 12:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's good to know this investment will last a long time.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11324187 - 10/26/09 12:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
CakeBaker said: It's good to know this investment will last a long time.
yep and its good to know that parts are very easy to find. even for 40 year old units.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#11324435 - 10/26/09 01:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have the same presto, but i would have bought an AA if i wasen't presssed for cash, my presto makes me want to duck and cover when it gets going......
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: Dionili]
#11324463 - 10/26/09 01:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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if your PC does that youre not using it right when the rocker starts moving fast turn the heat down so it barley moves and makes little noise
the PSI will still remain at 15
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Quote:
noobieshroomie said: if your PC does that youre not using it right when the rocker starts moving fast turn the heat down so it barley moves and makes little noise
the PSI will still remain at 15
-noobie-
No i know how to use it, It's just got thin metal you know? exsplosive devices scare me...
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: Dionili]
#11324486 - 10/26/09 01:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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ahh... i got ya
-noobie-
-------------------- AMU Best Thread Ever CapZilla said: not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some. Citric said: Your signature is wrong on colonization temps! GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION Thank you mycochef
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Dionili
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Quote:
noobieshroomie said: ahh... i got ya
-noobie-
Harsh exsperince with a butane can and a cigerett, ended up with my head in the freezer for a few hours.
Edit: Learned how NOT to make BHO that day.
Edited by Dionili (10/26/09 01:35 PM)
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#11324721 - 10/26/09 02:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd save the $100 to spend on other stuff. As long as it sterilizes and holds the right pressure, who cares what name is on the outside? I know RR said that you'll spend the cost difference in replacing parts for the first five years, well, for how many years are you going to grow mushrooms? And is there empirical evidence that Prestos are inherently unreliable? Or is it the fact that it doesn't say "Made in the USA" on the box? It's not a lifetime hobby for me, and I don't use PCs otherwise, so I'll keep the $100. I don't feel that an AA does a $100 better job at sterilizing. YMMV.
You could also take that $100 savings and invest it in a smaller PC for small things like agar and what not.
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just get a older one made out of steel. for cheaper than a new aluminum one.
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CakeBaker
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Thanks blt for your point on that. I plan to do lots of canning for the many years to come also so I think I'm gonna make the upfront investment to get the long term benefits.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11325791 - 10/26/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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CakeBaker said: Thanks blt for your point on that. I plan to do lots of canning for the many years to come also so I think I'm gonna make the upfront investment to get the long term benefits.
Doing lots of canning, eh? DEFINITELY stick with the AA. I never seen a steel canner only small PCs. Mine is a 70 year old Ball made just like an AA, and it's aluminum. You could go vintage, like I did and save some bucks, but it takes some work and you can't go wrong with either of those AAs. Just for shits and giggles because I love it and spent less than fifty, here it is, 18 quarts:
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They're great for seafood too. RR
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RogerRabbit said: They're great for seafood too. RR
Lobster eh? [3.99/ lb. sometimes around here ] I'm assuming you just use it as a steamer, no pressure.
But yeah, cook a roast in an hour. Try sauerbraten.
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CakeBaker
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That's good to know. The PC seems like it has 101 uses.
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Re: Presto vs All-American [Re: CakeBaker]
#11325985 - 10/26/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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For sure. I never had one before, but now I use it more often for cooking than mycology. It saves time and fuel.
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