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Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ????
    #11322362 - 10/26/09 03:51 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Question.  I recently consumed poppy seeds at about 4AM one morning, then drug tested at 4PM the next day, 12 hours later.  It was probably about two-three handfuls of Planters NUT-rition mixed nuts.  Here is a link to the product nutrition info that shows the back of the can:  Planters

The poppy seeds were apparently made in with the Honey Roasted Sesame Sticks.  I just ate maybe 2-4 handfuls of the nuts...thats it.

Will this cause me to fail a drug test?  I wonder what concentration per nl/mL of any opiate alkaloid at about 10 hours after digestion this would cause me to have?  I took a comprehensive drug test that will be using GS/MC to detect the alkaloid.  Any Ideas?


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: splices0]
    #11322390 - 10/26/09 04:01 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

HONEY ROASTED SESAME STICKS (WHEAT FLOUR, SOYBEAN OIL, SESAME SEEDS, BULGUR WHEAT, MALTODEXTRIN, HONEY, SUGAR, WHEAT STARCH, SALT, XANTHAN GUM, BEET POWDER AND TUMERIC {VEGETABLE COLORS}, SOY LECITHIN, POPPY SEEDS, MILK),

This is where the levels are at.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: splices0]
    #11322413 - 10/26/09 04:07 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: splices0]
    #11322433 - 10/26/09 04:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Nah, the poppy seeds themselves dont really contain any actives as far as I know

Most people only use the seeds in order to wash any of the opium off of the outside of the seeds


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: MHbound]
    #11322437 - 10/26/09 04:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I appreciate your response.  I just wonder how much about 4 handfuls of mixed nuts with roasted sesame sticks containing poppy seeds x ng/mL would be in your system after 10 hours of digestion so I can discern the likelihood me of exceeding 100 ng/mL of the cutoff level for potential alkaloid.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: splices0]
    #11322446 - 10/26/09 04:14 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

As much as I hate to say it KillerPicklez(banez) is right. The seeds themselves contain very little actives in the seeds, if any, and the actives are usually on the outside. They are used for flavor in these instances and are cleaned very well before being used.

You should be fine.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: MHbound]
    #11322452 - 10/26/09 04:17 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you.  I just have googled around a lot and it shows that virtually 2-3 Poppy Seed Bagels have caused people to fail a drug test as opiates. (mythbusters).  Im not sure what the relative difference is between the amount of seeds on a poppy seed bagel is versus what may have been cooked inside these sesame sticks in 4 handfuls.

I'm on federal probation and they use a comprehensive panel test with 100 ng/mL cutoffs, which is extremely low.


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    #11322456 - 10/26/09 04:20 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I just got off of a federal program as well, last week actually. And the bagels use seeds that are organic or whatever you want to call it and will have the white milk from the pods n what have you on them...Notice the ones in the stuff you have shouldn't...If they do its likely just from the other nuts.

Just drink up some water to dilute the samples down even more and piss 2-3 times before taking the test. I see no reason to worry.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: MHbound]
    #11322464 - 10/26/09 04:23 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I can't even see a poppy seed on these sticks.  In fact, it was almost the last ingredient used to make the sesame stick itself according to the list above.

I have to be careful with diluting my piss...if your creatine levels drop too low, they will flag it as being WORSE than a positive because they will claim you tried to tamper with the test.

In this case, I highly doubt these cooked sesame sticks would have the stuff you are referring to...I guess I should be okay, it was just so random.  I signed an agreement not to eat poppy containing products and it was in a can of nuts, I had no idea.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: splices0]
    #11322471 - 10/26/09 04:25 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yea I mean don't deliberately dilute it too much just drink a little water and pee a few times it won't drop it out of the norm.


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    #11322476 - 10/26/09 04:27 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

You are going to be just fine. Just dont go eat a bag of them right before you go piss

Opiates only stay in your system 2-3 days anyways unless you are binging. And from a bag of nuts im sure they would be undetectable after even 24 hours.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #11322485 - 10/26/09 04:33 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks...I already dropped 10 hours of ingestion from eating 4 handfuls of this can: Planters of nuts...urinating roughly 3 times.  Right before I went to sleep, when i woke up, and at the test.


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    #11322491 - 10/26/09 04:36 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, my bad,  I missed that first part. I thought you meant 36 hours not 4am and then later that day


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #11322493 - 10/26/09 04:37 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

heh, so does that change your feelings about my fate?  should I email them and mention this?


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    #11322497 - 10/26/09 04:39 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Nah not really. It probably wont even show up and if it does the levels will be soo low that they wont even say anything to you. And even if they did, just explain what happened and offer to retest. If you still have the bag of nuts you might want to save it just in case they want to bust your balls about it

But I have heard of the poppy seed bagel myth and never known anyone who actually tested positive.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #11322504 - 10/26/09 04:42 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Appreciate it, I saved the receipt from buying the can and the can itself too.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #11322519 - 10/26/09 04:49 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Nah, the poppy seeds themselves dont really contain any actives as far as I know

Most people only use the seeds in order to wash any of the opium off of the outside of the seeds



Mythbusters did an episode on people testing positive from eating poppy seed containing food and well they tested postive and the drug testing companies refused to awnser their questions


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #11322527 - 10/26/09 04:52 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Right, I'm not disputing that.  They were eating quite a few poppy seeds.  I had several handfuls of nuts where the sesame seeds were made with traces of poppy seeds in them....I'm trying to find out if my relative consumption is significant enough to exceed a 100 ng/mL threshold level of an opiate alkaloid after 10 hours of consuption.


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #11322531 - 10/26/09 04:54 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Appreciate it, I saved the receipt from buying the can and the can itself too.




Smart man

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KillerPicklez said:
Nah, the poppy seeds themselves dont really contain any actives as far as I know

Most people only use the seeds in order to wash any of the opium off of the outside of the seeds



Mythbusters did an episode on people testing positive from eating poppy seed containing food and well they tested postive and the drug testing companies refused to awnser their questions




Yeah I saw that too. Im just saying, I have never actually heard of anyone testing positive from eating something with poppy seeds in it


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Re: Poppy Seed/Opiate Alkaloid Drug Test GS/MC cutoff levels ???? [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #11322536 - 10/26/09 04:57 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

PLANTERS - NUT-RITION - ENERGY MIX

Ingredients: ALMONDS, HONEY ROASTED SESAME STICKS (WHEAT FLOUR, SOYBEAN OIL, SESAME SEEDS, BULGUR WHEAT, MALTODEXTRIN, HONEY, SUGAR, WHEAT STARCH, SALT, XANTHAN GUM, BEET POWDER AND TUMERIC {VEGETABLE COLORS}, SOY LECITHIN, POPPY SEEDS, MILK), PEANUTS, WALNUTS, PECANS, SEMISWEET CHOCOLATE (SUGAR, CHOCOLATE, COCOA BUTTER, MILKFAT, SOY LECITHIN, VANILLIN - ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR), SUGAR, OIL ROASTED SOYNUTS (SOYBEANS, SOYBEAN OIL), PEANUT AND/OR COTTONSEED OIL, SALT, HONEY, CORN SYRUP, ARTIFICIAL COLOR (BLUE 2 LAKE, YELLOW 6 LAKE, YELLOW 5 LAKE, RED 40 LAKE), GUM ARABIC, CONFECTIONER'S GLAZE, CARNAUBA WAX, BEESWAX, XANTHAN GUM. CONTAINS: ALMOND, WHEAT, SESAME SEED, SOY, POPPY SEED, PEANUT, WALNUT, PECAN. MANUFACTURED ON EQUIPMENT THAT PROCESSES OTHER TREE NUTS.
Size: 9.25 OZ
Upc: 2900001149


I consumed 4 handfuls of the above can of mixed nuts, didnt even place a dent in the 9 oz can.  Where poppy seed is bolded, you will see where it was actually made as a part of the sesame stick.


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