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that psychedelic feeling
    #11317826 - 10/25/09 01:21 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

Why is it that when LSD is introduced to my human central nervous system it makes me alive again.  It makes me feel like i am connecting with what i really am.  The real me.  This is who i am.  Its like myself is being introduced to myself.  What really gets my goat is it feels like im being introduced to myself again.  Its not something new, its a re-connection rather than a brand new connection.

Why does this never happen to me sober?  Can it happen with out the psychedelics?


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11317882 - 10/25/09 01:30 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

This "connection" can happen sober. It happens to me all the time. If I hear a new album I have been waiting for or at times like Christmas where my whole family is together. LSD is not the answer, its merely a step to take towards a different perspective.  Oh no I'm going to use that dreadful word, "meditation" :omgz:


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Rocker232]
    #11317892 - 10/25/09 01:33 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

So is this connection just amplified from the LSD?

Because it feels like "the" connection.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318017 - 10/25/09 02:01 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude........


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318023 - 10/25/09 02:02 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah I think it happens sober but its 'hidden' fleetingly within meaningful experiences.

But when the drug is there, it 'holds open' certain thought patterns and the feeling can persist beyond a moment

I dont know about meditation... but I think that I 'find' the psychedelic experience in lots of places nowadays... it is sort of wherever the good things in life are... it is in the moments of coming to understand more.. learning to move your body.. being in sync with music... seeing the ripples in the pond from that perfect beautiful angle... looking into someone's eyes and feeling a connection, rather than a reaction.. its just that it has to 'reach' you in your conscious moment without all the bullshit of preconception, purpose, societal expectation also existing in the moment. Youve often got to forget yourself.. so it jus thappens randomly when youre not expecting it...

but with lsd, it can come out of all the pores of the universe, because the drug is stopping your ego from deconstructing the world into what you take for granted


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: FlickeryVision]
    #11318026 - 10/25/09 02:02 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

Your location says your from amserdam?  There is a lot of acid in amsterdam.  Find the right people.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318030 - 10/25/09 02:03 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

you know what God said to Adam when he eat the forbidden fruit?
"Where are you"

we all lost from the day we born, "the way" is to search your self and God guide you.

i think and like many others, that the forbidden fruit is actually drug or magic mushroom, so if the forbidden fruit bring us to lost, that fruit will be the only way to find our self .

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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318032 - 10/25/09 02:03 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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What really gets my goat...




That belongs in the MWSAG thread.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318466 - 10/25/09 03:22 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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Why is it that when LSD is introduced to my human central nervous system it makes me alive again.  It makes me feel like i am connecting with what i really am.  The real me.  This is who i am.  Its like myself is being introduced to myself.  What really gets my goat is it feels like im being introduced to myself again.  Its not something new, its a re-connection rather than a brand new connection.

Why does this never happen to me sober?  Can it happen with out the psychedelics?





IMO the answer is evident. These substances override temporarily our basic cultural and personal conditioning.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Icelander]
    #11318495 - 10/25/09 03:26 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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These substances override temporarily our basic cultural and personal conditioning.



Would you care to elaborate?


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318512 - 10/25/09 03:29 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

I've done that countless times here. so no, just think about it .


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318563 - 10/25/09 03:37 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

It's like a vitamin deficiency. You body doesn't function correctly without the proper amount of acid.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11318564 - 10/25/09 03:37 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

I think all of the outside influences that cause us to try to be "normal" sort of go away on acid, all of your real feelings and personal tendencies are made obvious. 
I think just by a lot of thought and self examination you can sort of get to the same place as far as knowing yourself, though LSD is it's own thing, it makes thinking different, everything feels big and profound and that can't be easily replicated without the chemical, at least not for such a long period of time.
I know what you mean though about the re-connection, it feels very familiar, like it's been there the whole time.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Icelander]
    #11318619 - 10/25/09 03:46 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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I've done that countless times here. so no, just think about it .



Don't you think basic culture and personal conditioning is a little more widespread and complex in the brain than LSD binding at the places it does?


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11318731 - 10/25/09 04:03 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

No but even if true you don't really know how free you might be able to feel. LSD my just be one step in that direction. I suspect it is in many ways although I don't think the human mind could take too much reality.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Icelander]
    #11318772 - 10/25/09 04:13 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

:lol:  How is it possible to have too much reality?


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11319468 - 10/25/09 06:12 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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:lol:  How is it possible to have too much reality?




When you grew up on BS and reality conjures up a beat down bat mitzvah  to accompany your rude awakening.


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: TheBalance]
    #11319572 - 10/25/09 06:37 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

what is "mitzvah"?


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11319627 - 10/25/09 06:46 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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Yeah I think it happens sober but its 'hidden' fleetingly within meaningful experiences.

But when the drug is there, it 'holds open' certain thought patterns and the feeling can persist beyond a moment

I dont know about meditation... but I think that I 'find' the psychedelic experience in lots of places nowadays... it is sort of wherever the good things in life are... it is in the moments of coming to understand more.. learning to move your body.. being in sync with music... seeing the ripples in the pond from that perfect beautiful angle... looking into someone's eyes and feeling a connection, rather than a reaction.. its just that it has to 'reach' you in your conscious moment without all the bullshit of preconception, purpose, societal expectation also existing in the moment. Youve often got to forget yourself.. so it jus thappens randomly when youre not expecting it...

but with lsd, it can come out of all the pores of the universe, because the drug is stopping your ego from deconstructing the world into what you take for granted




cool poast :thumbup:


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Re: that psychedelic feeling [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11320111 - 10/25/09 08:05 PM (8 years, 30 days ago)

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How is it possible to have too much reality?




Two words: sensory overload. If we paid full attention to every sound and stimulus we would go insane. In normal consciousness, much of this is filtered out. On acid, more information leaks through to our conscious awareness.

I did a thread once wherein I could identify a car driving by, by the sound signature of the tires on the pavement. The sound looked like spectrograph in my head.


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