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    #11317446 - 10/25/09 12:06 PM (8 years, 14 hours ago)

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUS238174038020091023

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The article says:  McCain's bill, the Internet Freedom Act, seeks to do the opposite of what its name implies by ensuring that broadband and wireless providers can discriminate and throttle certain traffic while giving preferential treatment to other traffic... According to the text of the McCain bill, the FCC "shall not propose, promulgate, or issue any regulations regarding the Internet or IP-enabled services."




i am a techie so of course i know how important it is we protect the internet from john mccain's corporate interests.

is the average libertarian educated enough to know this fact or will he eat up the deregulation line?


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: moeshroom]
    #11317517 - 10/25/09 12:24 PM (8 years, 14 hours ago)

Shouldn't an internet provider be able to utilize their infrastructure as they see fit, provided it complies with contracts made with the customers?


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: moeshroom]
    #11317518 - 10/25/09 12:24 PM (8 years, 14 hours ago)

Is there a petition to oppose this measure?
I'd sign it if so.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: Redstorm]
    #11317563 - 10/25/09 12:34 PM (8 years, 14 hours ago)

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Shouldn't an internet provider be able to utilize their infrastructure as they see fit, provided it complies with contracts made with the customers?




then you get comcast throttling bittorrent protocol, etc..

i am not aware of a petition but i'm not worried at this stage in the game.  it sounds like the bill is flawed on its face, plus the reps are in a weak position.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: moeshroom]
    #11317580 - 10/25/09 12:38 PM (8 years, 14 hours ago)

And why should such a practice be illegal? A provider of a good or service sets the rules for its provision.

The only leg to stand on regarding this argument is the fact that local governments allow utility monopolies in their jurisdiction.  If more competition among cable and internet providers was allowed, methinks you would see a lot less of bandwidth caps and throttles.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: Redstorm]
    #11317677 - 10/25/09 12:56 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

consider the historical circumstances that allowed for the internet in its current form, and recent events that suggest it is under threat.

the comcast issue was resolved by fcc vote.  if mccain's bill takes away fcc powers, comcast customers may again face bittorrent throttling.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10004508-38.html

more generally, unrestricted "quality of service"-type behavior by isps will restrict (slow down, throttle) online freedom of speech (ie shroomery) & press, open source efforts, and other global goods that the internet currently enables in a first class manner.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: moeshroom]
    #11317738 - 10/25/09 01:07 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

>  if mccain's bill takes away fcc powers, comcast customers may again face bittorrent throttling.

Good thing we live in a capitalist society where the consumer can leave internet providers that throttle traffic for ones that don't.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: Seuss]
    #11317758 - 10/25/09 01:10 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

I live in an area where there is only one provider of high speed internet...I'm sure there are lots of other people in this situation as well.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: Seuss]
    #11317822 - 10/25/09 01:20 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

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>  if mccain's bill takes away fcc powers, comcast customers may again face bittorrent throttling.

Good thing we live in a capitalist society where the consumer can leave internet providers that throttle traffic for ones that don't.




comcast is enormous and for many of its customers it is the only choice.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: moeshroom]
    #11317903 - 10/25/09 01:35 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

Obamas FCC is promoting net neutrality. if you believe (like i do) that is a good thing, help out by supporting.


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Re: mccain internet bill [Re: Taco Chef]
    #11318159 - 10/25/09 02:27 PM (8 years, 12 hours ago)

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Obamas FCC is promoting net neutrality. if you believe (like i do) that is a good thing, help out by supporting.




if there's one thing this bill tells me, it's that despite obama's flaws, mccain would've indeed been far worse.

i am an eff.org member; they are wicked intelligent tech lawyers and make a strong case for neutrality policy.


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