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Psilocybe fimetaria?
    #11316795 - 10/25/09 07:21 AM (8 years, 19 hours ago)

Found these guys on horse dung at about 2000 meters up in the catalonian pyrenees. What do you think?



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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: up_right]
    #11316918 - 10/25/09 08:38 AM (8 years, 18 hours ago)

Is that green bruising at the bases?

Save some prints!


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11316980 - 10/25/09 09:18 AM (8 years, 17 hours ago)

Nice finds. Have you printed them yet? If so, what color?


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #11316998 - 10/25/09 09:33 AM (8 years, 17 hours ago)

Purplish-brown, obviously. The question is whether it's P. fimetaria or P. coprophila.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11317038 - 10/25/09 09:52 AM (8 years, 16 hours ago)

I think they're definitely P. fimetaria or a close relative.

P. coprophila doesn't bruise blue.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11317048 - 10/25/09 09:55 AM (8 years, 16 hours ago)

wanna let me get a print? =)


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11317054 - 10/25/09 09:57 AM (8 years, 16 hours ago)

Yeah, I know. I wasn't sure if I saw any bruising on the fresh ones. The dried specimen are hell of blue, though.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11317140 - 10/25/09 10:33 AM (8 years, 16 hours ago)

The bluing is very very slight on the actual shroomies that I picked, and only on the base.

The prints are coming....

If these are p. fimetaria then this would be the first time that they are found in Spain - at least on the internet.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: up_right]
    #11317226 - 10/25/09 11:01 AM (8 years, 15 hours ago)

Man I've been looking all over for those! Congratulations!!!

Spread the prints :wink:


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: hjalmar]
    #11317303 - 10/25/09 11:17 AM (8 years, 15 hours ago)

I found them on accident - I was looking for semilanceata. Now it's been three years I've been looking for liberty caps - impossible - and I am too damn busy.........


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: up_right]
    #11317620 - 10/25/09 12:45 PM (8 years, 14 hours ago)

doesnt fimetarias have veil remnants simliar to a stuntzii though?
very simliar to coprifilias that i have found in buffallo shit in the past but if there is blue who knows!


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: up_right]
    #11317646 - 10/25/09 12:50 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

Wow, beautiful country.  They do look a bit like P. coprophila, but the bluing says otherwise.  Maybe Psilocybe hispanica.

Not much info out there on em, but... http://www.thehawkseye.com/hispanica/hisp.html

http://webs.uvigo.es/micoloxia/documentos/artigo-psilocybe-gallaeciae.pdf


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: landsnorkler]
    #11317719 - 10/25/09 01:04 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

I see some rings on the dried ones, though they are very faint.

They do look a lot like wild Ps. hispanica.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11317810 - 10/25/09 01:17 PM (8 years, 13 hours ago)

Guzman's description of P. hispanica fits snugly as well.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: up_right]
    #11318273 - 10/25/09 02:46 PM (8 years, 12 hours ago)

Does not appear to be Psilocybe hispanica.

See http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-magic-mushroom-species-misc/9152-psilocybe-hispanica-indoor.html

The stem is too dark for that species.

It looks a lot like Psilocybe coprophila, and that is what I think it is.

I see darkening at the stem bases but no bluing.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11318287 - 10/25/09 02:49 PM (8 years, 12 hours ago)

I was thinking the exact same thing. They do look more like P. coprophila to me. What really made me wonder was the image with the dried up colony:



I thought that did look blue, but then again, why would they only bruise blue when dried.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11318313 - 10/25/09 02:53 PM (8 years, 11 hours ago)

Quote:

What really made me wonder was the image with the dried up colony:






Those do look like P. hispanica.


And I think they are.

Stem is white.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11321195 - 10/25/09 11:01 PM (8 years, 3 hours ago)

P. stuntzii sometimes has white stems and sometimes the stems are the color of the caps. I don't see why these are any different.

White stem stuntzii :


Not white stem stuntzii (notice these are wet and water logged just like the picked "hispanica") :




Looks like the picked hispanica simply had the stems darken due to handling. Plus you can see greening on the bottom of some of the picked stems.

Mushroom in the bottom middle of the pic has green on the base.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11640867 - 12/13/09 05:48 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I'd say they are Hispanicas, too.
From this region only Semilanceatas and Hispanicas are known. Plus they do look like the wild ones from Hawkseye and the darkened stem could be due to cold weather influences. Sometimes Semilanceata stems turn nearly brown when it got through some frosty days.

My guess (and as far no one had seen gills or spores under a microscope) is Psilocybe Hispanica, especially due to the region where they were found.
But surely I am a mushroom grower, and besides Semilanceatas I never found anything wild.

Workman just got a dried specimen of Hispanica from my grow to have again another look at them.

So to get closer to the correct species, "up_right" could send a dried cap (not only spores thats not sufficient) to workman, too.

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