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First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History
    #11313916 - 10/24/09 08:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Well, originally I was going to ask when the first time was that you used psychedelic substances, and how it helped/changed you as a person and how it compares to your trips today. But now, I am posing that question and also expanding it to your history of drug use, as in what drugs have you used and why? I have been seeing a bunch of posts in which people who use dmt and meth or such combos. I may be under the false fears society/media makes you believe, but I never really thought the kind of people who use psychedelics would also use things like meth. It's understandable, especially if those kind of drugs led them to psychedelics. Also, to each their own. I mean, The Dead and The Beatles used coke, maybe I'm judging to harshly because of forced opinion or my own ignorance. maybe coke and meth have some cred. Not my thing, too much to risk. The most hardcore I'd go, beside psycehdelics, are regular amphetamines.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11313938 - 10/24/09 08:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Weed was the first drug i did, it opened my mind up. It was like i was in a dream for 15 years and after that first toke off a joint and i woke up. It has definitely made me a better person and appreciate life.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: TrippyNinja]
    #11313991 - 10/24/09 08:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Weed was the first drug i did, it opened my mind up. It was like i was in a dream for 15 years and after that first toke off a joint and i woke up. It has definitely made me a better person and appreciate life.



Very interesting. Could you be a tad more specific? How were you the first 15 years, in the terms of open mindedness? How were you after?


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11314058 - 10/24/09 08:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Before weed i was happy just living my life. Living in a small town, going to school, watching TV etc. But when i started smoking weed i desired so much more. I seeked knowledge about the world, i started questioning life. It is because of this i am now the person i am today. I'll use meditation as an example. After smoking weed I searched for ways to expand my mind (which made me find this website) and i found out about meditation. Ever since then i have been meditating once a day and i feel much more complete as a human being. And that's just one example.
Before weed i was an unhappy person and i didn't even notice at the time cause i thought it was normal. But now i'm happy with life. Weed has given me a huge confidence boost and in doing so i have gained many friends.
I am only 18 and very inexperienced with 'drugs', I've only smoked weed and taken mdma. I am looking forward to taking psychedelics such as Mushrooms, LSD, Ayahuasca and DMT. I have read countless trip reports and i know for a fact after taking these substances that i will discover much more about the world and myself, and have tons of fun on the way of course :thumbup:


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: TrippyNinja]
    #11314118 - 10/24/09 09:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I can't begin to explain how psychedelics have saved me.

Its beyond mental comprehension.

For me though, pot just made me aware something was up--LSD and Ayahuasca showed me the answers.


In short, I used to be a nihilistic, horribly depressed, entirely hated myself, atheist, who felt literally and I mean literally NO LOVE. I used to tell people things like I don't love my parents, I don't believe in love, I don't care when people die and even that I like it when people die. I told myself I hated myself. I was in denial of all these problems and didn't even realize there was something wrong.

Now....

I love myself beyond words, I am hardly ever depressed, i love everyone, i've met and been god, i am on my way to becoming a pure soul of unconditional love. I've reconnected with my parents.

This is just one of things I've experienced.

Meditation is my recommendation. Psychedelics are great for speeding it up.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11314216 - 10/24/09 09:19 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I have used a variety of drugs, Weed was my gateway to the good drugs..... Psychedelics.

But, I had eaten pills and drank beer before smoking weed.

Shortly thereafter, I began to smoke weed daily, pop pills when I could get them, drink like a fish, occasionally try something stupid like DXM or nutmeg.

THEN, I met new friends...... and meth was on the menu. 6 mos. of smoking more than once a week, and mostly several days in a row, with alcohol weed opiates and casinos mixed in.

THEN. I had a change of location and a falling out with one of my meth-friends.

About a month or so after that, I obtained my first hit of acid..... low dose, poor set and setting, even drove..... but all i had was blurry vision and confused thoughts......

a few days after that.... I got 2 hits of LSD and cracked my skull open. the next few years I obtained lsd and shrooms tried DXM again a bit more seriously, smoked real opium, tried crack, slowed down on the pills and quit alcohol almost entirely, and only used meth OCCASIONALLY ( like once every few years, AND SAID "NO" to it many times, havent for 7+years now )

Met my wife, took a two year hiatus..... And now, only smoke weed once or twice a year, only drink 3-4 times a year, trip once a month or less, sometimes more, sampled some various entheogens and legal herbals. But, mostly, just shrooms and cactus for me.

I would agree with the sentiment that before psychedelics , it was like I was living in a dream. Acid woke me up.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: Shad0w]
    #11314273 - 10/24/09 09:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

All of your replies are very captivating! :aliceshocker:

It would be interesting to hear how you define awake and living a dream and if it is possible to be awakened without ever taking psychedelics, beside intense meditation.

Also, it is interesting about the meth users as well. I have hear meth completely fries the pleasure center of the brain, how does that affect psychedelics, or psychedelics effect that?

How does the intense pleasure of meth compare to the intense truth from psychedelics?

And at what point is one awakened beyond further awakening?

Will scooby ever reunite with shaggy?  :laugh:


As willliam blake said: "You can only know what is enough, once you've had more than enough."

But how can one have more than enough of awakening/truth and realization?


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11314333 - 10/24/09 09:42 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I was once a robot.

Now I'm a meta programming super machine.


Or if you prefer spiritual terms:

I was once in hell.

Now I have the light of God and the holy spirit driving me



Its all the same thing, just different semantics.


Psychedelics show you how to liberate yourself.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11314341 - 10/24/09 09:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

For me awaking from the metaphorical dream was like an instant shift in my brain. There wasn't a sudden change inside me where everything just clicked and my life became instantly better, that came later over time slowly piece by piece. But the shift was literally like a gate opening in my mind (weed literally was a gateway drug for me :smile:)  that let free flowing thoughts in that i never had even contemplated before. I don't really know how to describe any better than that


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11314347 - 10/24/09 09:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, A lot of good questions there.

Well... I dont know about meth frying my brain.... might have, I couldnt tell you either way.....

Hm, well.... lets compare meth or opiates or alcohol with masturbation...... and psychedelics like sex with the universe.

I can see where both COULD be seen as bottemless pits of a different sort.....

But, IME bad drugs are selfish pleasure of the illusionary senses...... and psychedelics at the peak, are selfless connection with total reality.

But that is debatable.

I would say, that once a person wakes up, they might rub their eyes a bit, clear their vision, stretch a bit and get in touch with their bodies, find the will and desire to rise out of the tomb-like slumber and step onto the floor barefooted, savoring the penetrating cold, slowly amble towards the kitchen looking for sustanance while at the same time becoming more and more concious of what is real and what is imaginary..........

Have you ever eaten enough breakfast?

Me neither. :grin:

But, I find myself skipping breakfast more and more as time goes by, in favor of the quietude of the front porch with a cup of tea and good tobacco.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: Shad0w]
    #11314668 - 10/24/09 10:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Very good answers.
What always bothers me is that people all go around saying that those meth/crack highs are fake, I don't support or partake in those drugs, but it's fact they give pleasure in the same manner that being successful or doing something you like (not including a drug or sex) does. It's just a quick and sometimes more intense path. If you look at it like that, regular life seems rather limited by choice. Psychedelics are the breaking free of the mind into higher realms.
But, can someone who hasn't taken psychedelics feel that way through meditation, uniqueness, sort of psychedelic experiences, or just being born different? If so can they do it to that same extent?


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11320424 - 10/25/09 09:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I think that all kinds of substances that affect your percieved reality are interesting... but at the same time I don't see myself as a better or more healthy person than others. I started with weed as usual, moved into pills and drinking (somewhat like the above poster...) then on to stimulants (coke, amphetamines, MDMA), but I've definitely found home tripping and smoking...

I think changing your perspective helps you see things in different ways, and the relaxation of a fresh shroom tea brew or LSD blotter is unbeatable. Thumbs-up bottoms down.


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Re: First Time With Psychedelics/Drug History [Re: Shad0w]
    #11320453 - 10/25/09 09:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Shad0w said:


Hm, well.... lets compare meth or opiates or alcohol with masturbation...... and psychedelics like sex with the universe.





I feel all of you guys, but this above quote is the best! :thewarden:


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