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Thinking about casing
    #11312731 - 10/24/09 05:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've been following the PF tek method and am thinking about casing my colonized cakes that I put in the fruiting chamber two days ago. Should I wait till after harvesting their first flush before breaking up the cakes and casing them?


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: walterisashedhead]
    #11312775 - 10/24/09 05:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I would just grow them as is and start another grow to move on to bulk.

When you dunk and roll, the "roll" part is the "casing" for the cakes.

A casing is a non-nutritive outer covering, (or casing, get it?), that provides a micro, (or "mini"), environment for the primordia, (read: shroom fetus). 

So, rolling your cakes in vermiculite is adding a casing to the cakes.

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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: walterisashedhead]
    #11312783 - 10/24/09 05:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

NO
if they are in the FC, leave them, that is your best yeild
once they get into fruit mode you cant crumble them.  Someone else mentioned crumbling after the fist flush, but that is also a bad idea...best thing for a used cake is to dunk and refruit

i have cased a few cakes, and i find that i generally get much better yields from whole cakes...

just dont crumble them, fruit as is and you will thank yourself when you have enough shrooms to trip for weeks/months


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: CamKron]
    #11312795 - 10/24/09 05:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

No point in casing them... By dunking and rolling you are essentially "casing" them with verm.

There is another post maybe 3 down from yours asking this same exact question.

If you want to spawn to bulk use grains. Simple as that.


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: Nuzzle]
    #11312831 - 10/24/09 05:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Casing will get you better results than cakes alone. Just do what it says in my tek in my signature. Crumble them up when they're fully colonized, not after the first flush. You'll be dissapointed if you leave the cakes as they are.

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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: m00nshine]
    #11313240 - 10/24/09 06:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I appreciate the input. The strain is Koh Samui Super Strain.


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: walterisashedhead]
    #11313375 - 10/24/09 06:47 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I appreciate the input. The strain is Koh Samui Super Strain.




Love that strain. You know how to take prints? I'd looove one.

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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: m00nshine]
    #11313438 - 10/24/09 06:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Casing will get you better results than cakes alone. Just do what it says in my tek in my signature. Crumble them up when they're fully colonized, not after the first flush. You'll be dissapointed if you leave the cakes as they are.

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dont do it
he said he put the cakes in the FC 2 days ago
if he crumbles them they will just stall...or he will get shit growth
they are in fruiting mode, keep them as cakes


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: CamKron]
    #11313461 - 10/24/09 07:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Casing will get you better results than cakes alone. Just do what it says in my tek in my signature. Crumble them up when they're fully colonized, not after the first flush. You'll be dissapointed if you leave the cakes as they are.

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dont do it
he said he put the cakes in the FC 2 days ago
if he crumbles them they will just stall...or he will get shit growth
they are in fruiting mode, keep them as cakes




Didn't know that...if they haven't pinned yet i would say it's alright. I've had pins on cakes and taken them off and spawned, worked out beautifully.


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: m00nshine]
    #11313505 - 10/24/09 07:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

IF you crumble your cakes spawn them to a bulk substrate dont case (IMO casings suck cuz you dont need to case when working with cubes).  they will need more food to recover from crumbling and even more for more flushes hence bulk substrate.  otherwise just leave the cakes whole and fruit after your dunk and roll.

if your trying to get more fruits from your cakes then a casing will do nothing 4 you but bulk substrates will.

just remember for each jar of spawn (cakes) you have you need 2-4 jars of pasteurized bulk substrate to mix with your spawn and have it colonize in a timely manner (7-10 days).

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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11314064 - 10/24/09 08:52 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: feelfunny]
    #11314389 - 10/24/09 09:52 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

2 days ago i took 9 4 ounce cakes and made casings. the casing with 1 cake in it already has mycelium growing up. (its in a clear tub thing so i could see the sides. just taped over to prevent side pinning.



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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11314404 - 10/24/09 09:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

if it was duct tape it will not keep out light. found out the hard way.


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: feelfunny]
    #11314410 - 10/24/09 09:56 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

lol really? well balls... how does duct tape not work?!? i guess ill wrap the bottom in tin foil...


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11314422 - 10/24/09 09:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i used to put duct tap around these but 2 layers still wasn't enough so now i put it like this or on the outside but the inside seems to work better


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11314423 - 10/24/09 09:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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lol really? well balls... how does duct tape not work?!?




It works for me. :shrug: May depend on the brand or something.


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: Doc_T]
    #11314522 - 10/24/09 10:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I use black Gorilla tape. :thumbup:


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Re: Thinking about casing [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #11314621 - 10/24/09 10:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

maybe i do get the cheap stuff but it still has a duck on the package at least:rofl:


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