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red dmt
    #11307856 - 10/23/09 08:09 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

swim extracted some dmt last night using the lazymans tek (most of it anyway) but also freeze percipitated it instead of just letting it sit infront of a fan.  swim ended up with about 100 mg of very light tan crystals on the first extraction.  the second extraction yielded about 5.5 grams of dark red waxy stuff.  after searching on here i read some stuff about "jungle spice", most people claimed it was more potent then regular dmt, some also claimed very dark and scary experiences with it.  is the dosage still 50 mg for breakthrough?  should swim try cleaning this with a warm naptha bath?  if it really is more potent then swim would prefer not to have to clean it but swim doesnt want bad experience as this is swims first experience with dmt (extracting and smoking).

some more specifics...
followed lazymans tek (for the most part) but instead of using 500g in one bowl it was 250g in 2 jars.  adjusted the proportions for the lye/water mix and mixed it in.  let it sit for 3 hours (swim had a bonfire and a few beers with friends).  added 200 ml of naptha to each jar, stirred for 20 minutes, let it seperate, then pulled off naptha.  put it in a baking dish and threw it in the freezer (dish 1).  mixed in another 200 ml of naptha to each jar.  let it sit for 3 hours, stirring every half hour or so for about 5 minutes the first 2 hours then let it sit for a full hour.  pulled off that naptha, set in freezer overnight (dish 2).

dish 1 was mostly clear naptha
dish 2 was more of a dark orange naptha
swim let them both sit in the freezer over night
this morning swim took them out, poured the remaining naptha off the top and placed infront of a fan to dry.
dish 1 had about 100mg of tan crystals.
dish 2 had about 5.5 grams of dark red waxy stuff.

so swim is wondering if this red stuff is normal, this was swims first extraction of dmt and swim has also never smoked it.  swim is wondering if swim should try it or not.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11307871 - 10/23/09 08:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

what solvent did you use?


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Re: red dmt [Re: moe.phan]
    #11307999 - 10/23/09 08:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i didnt use any solvent SWIM did lol...it was naptha, klean strip vm&p naptha from lowes


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11309678 - 10/24/09 03:27 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

swim and a friend tried it, mixed it with weed, after 1 hit we had to put the bowl down, it was ridiculous.  didnt break through but it was cool to feel everything start hitting you, swim watched his friends pupils swell up as he exhaled and it was awesome because swim had smoked some first.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11309700 - 10/24/09 03:31 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

That's a huge difference between dish 1 and 2.  You didn't do anything different between the two?


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Re: red dmt [Re: hoboblues]
    #11309734 - 10/24/09 03:40 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: red dmt [Re: hoboblues]
    #11310001 - 10/24/09 05:09 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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That's a huge difference between dish 1 and 2.  You didn't do anything different between the two?




nope, the second round was also red, third round was like a light orange, and swim figured to go one more round of extraction to see if there was anything left which is yellow, but not nearly as much dropped out of the naptha as before, the root bark is probly spent.  swim extracted about 10 grams of dmt out of 500 grams of mimosa.  swim is letting one more pull of naptha sit over night and through tomorrow just to see if anything else comes out.

1st pull 100 mg
2nd pull 5.5g
3rd pull 3.8g
4th pull not weighed yet, still evaporating the last of the naptha but it looks like it should 200-300 mg, its a little more then 2 and a half times the size of the first pull so i'm guessing on the weight.  either way though, cant really complain about roughly 10 grams (total weight will be posted tomorrow)  swim has called quite a few friends to come enjoy this with him.  probly gonna try a break through dose on sunday, and cant wait til halloween because this shit will be fun for the holiday.  the body high from the one hit lasted about 45 minutes so if a hit or two is taken every hour, it should be a fun party lol.

swim will have the weight of the 5th pull (if anything comes out of it) posted sunday.  on a side note though, after reading all the teks, if you choose the lazymans tek, swim would suggest not to evaporate the naptha over a fan, instead freeze it like some of the other teks say to do.  vm and p naptha from a hardware store is like $9 for 946 ml, when using 400 ml per pull and evaporating it, seems to be a waste.  $20 isnt that bad but by freezing it and then pouring off the naptha you can reuse the naptha you poured off, it works just fine.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11310035 - 10/24/09 05:23 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What was the high like when you or swim or whoever smoked the red spice.  Have you ever smoked pure DMT crystals to compare?

I'm just curious as to what other active alkaloids was in the red spice, besides whatever else is in it(plant fats maybe).  It's definitely not just nn-dmt.  Maybe since you have so much to play around with, try a recrystallization on some of it, to see if white crystals pull out of it, and compare the highs if you haven't.

Also, is the vapor harsh to smoke?


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Re: red dmt [Re: hoboblues]
    #11314455 - 10/24/09 10:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

its not too harsh, it seemed smoother then what people described but the high was comparable to acid or mushrooms.  never tried white dmt to compare it to though.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11314493 - 10/24/09 10:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: red dmt [Re: motaman]
    #11314571 - 10/24/09 10:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

kinda looks like caviar


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Re: red dmt [Re: dummy]
    #11315158 - 10/24/09 11:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

kinda what it looks like, the 5th extraction is done, swim is sitting on right around 11.5 grams total, has one last shot in the freezer right now just out of curiousity.  shared with some friends tonight, they all LOVE it lol, one girl said it was the best thing she ever felt in her whole life lol.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11315257 - 10/25/09 12:17 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome, man.  :thumbup:

I'm kind of curious about jungle spice now, after only smoking yellow to white stuff, but never waxy.  I've been reading other sites as well about it.  There's a ton of info on it at the DMT Nexus, This Thread specifically.


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Re: red dmt [Re: hoboblues]
    #11315691 - 10/25/09 01:36 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

yeah i read that, what swim got on the first couple of pulls what almost identical to the first pic, the red/brown stuff, the other pulls were identical to the "tan wax" pics.  tried both of them with the same effects.  the last pull thats in swims freezer right now doesnt look like much but is yellow in color so far and will probably stay that way.  of course, like the other pulls there are some pure white crystals on the sides of the dish.  it'll probably be in there overnight aka a few hours, so i'll probably post results later today.  if a decent amount comes out of this then swim will probably try another pull just for the hell of it lol.  but really, who would complain about 11-12 grams out of 500 grams of mimosa?  from what i've read this is actually a very good yield especially for a first attempt lol.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11315728 - 10/25/09 01:44 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've only gotten the red spice from using Xyol, or xylenes, as a solvent.  I found it was best when I mixed it with the white crystals I got from Naptha pulls.  I've never gotten red spice with just Naptha though.


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Re: red dmt [Re: gratefulgere]
    #11315902 - 10/25/09 02:29 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

thats what i was wondering about because i couldnt find anything on anyone getting red with just naptha, maybe its cuz vm and p naptha was used instead of lighter fluid like most of the teks say.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11316642 - 10/25/09 05:41 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

so swim pulled the other pull out of the freezer, its drying by a fan right now, it looks like probably another gram or so, its light yellow/white this time, mixed more naptha in mix to do another pull tomorrow cuz obviously theres still some left in there.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11316660 - 10/25/09 05:53 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

When I had red waxy stuff I investigated and the most likely cause was high level of Lye. It was harsh stuff. Also it did not like to crystalise. I took it that it was a bad thing and that I should try to get the most crystalline, pure coloured DMT as possible


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Re: red dmt [Re: Noteworthy]
    #11316729 - 10/25/09 06:36 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

thats funny cuz in another thread someone said the level of lye is too low, 100 grams per liter of water was the ratio used.  surprisingly its not harsh at all, just tastes like plastic and moth balls but its pretty smooth compared to what i read about this stuff being so harsh.  it seems like the more pulls that are done the lighter it gets.


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Re: red dmt [Re: tictactone]
    #11317034 - 10/25/09 09:51 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

swim scraped up the dried pan, for another 2.5 grams, bringing the total to roughly half an ounce.  another pull is drying by fan right now, came out orange again though.


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