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For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross...
    #11306464 - 10/23/09 02:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Personally, I've never done it so I don't really have an opinion. But, while investigating its effects -- both ill and desirable -- I ran across many arguments in the forums here that stated that smoking fungus was reprehensible.

So, just some food for thought, especially if you smoke cigarettes, weed, or use blunt papers:

>>> Vol. 284 No. 22, December 13, 2000 JAMA. 2000;284
>>> (22):2875-
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>>> Fungal Contamination of Tobacco and Marijuana
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>>> To the Editor: Invasive aspergillosis remains a significant
>>> cause of morbidity and mortality in immunocompromised
>>> patients, including transplant recipients and those treated
>>> for hematological malignancy. Exposure to airborne
>>> Aspergillus spores is considered a major risk factor for
>>> acquiring infection. The guideline of the US Centers for
>>> Disease Control and Prevention recommends that potential
>>> sources of fungal spores should be eliminated to reduce the
>>> exposure of patients at high risk.1 However, the risk of
>>> invasive aspergillosis associated with tobacco or marijuana
>>> smoking is unclear. We investigated whether Aspergillus
>>> spores are present in tobacco of commercially available
>>> cigarettes and marijuana (marijuana is sold semilegally in
>>> the Netherlands), and whether burning contaminated tobacco
>>> causes release of spores. Methods. Tobacco from 98
>>> cigarettes from 14 different commercial brands and 7
>>> samples of marijuana were cultured for molds. The tobacco
>>> or marijuana was placed in 25 mL of distilled water and 1
>>> mL of distilled water with 50 �gL of Tween 20 and shaken
>>> for 5 hours. The supernatant was recentrifuged, and the
>>> residue was plated on Sabouraud dextrose agar. The plates
>>> were incubated at 29�C for 3 weeks. Sabouraud broth was
>>> added to the original tobacco and incubated at 29�C for 2
>>> weeks. A vacuum-driven water pipe was used to investigate
>>> the level of fungal contamination of tobacco smoke. Tobacco
>>> was contaminated with 106 CFU/mL Aspergillus fumigatus
>>> spores and then rolled into cigarettes. Each cigarette was
>>> attached to a mouthpiece, lighted, and the smoke was pulled
>>> through a 0.22-�gm micropore filter for approximately 5
>>> minutes. The smoke of 40 contaminated cigarettes was
>>> cultured, including 20 cigarettes with a filter attached
>>> and 20 without the filters. Results. All cigarette brands
>>> tested had some degree of fungal contamination, although
>>> not every cigarette was found to have a positive culture
>>> (TABLE). Between 1 and 5 different fungal species were
>>> cultured from each cigarette, but A fumigatus was the most
>>> frequently isolated organism. Other opportunistic molds
>>> recovered from tobacco included Fusarium, Acremonium,
>>> Rhizopus, and Scedosporium species. Marijuana was also
>>> heavily contaminated with molds, with Penicillium species
>>> predominating. The smoke from the 20 cigarettes with a
>>> filter as well as that from 20 cigarettes without was
>>> negative for growth of molds. Comment.
>>>
>>> We found tobacco and marijuana are heavily contaminated
>>> with fungal spores. The finding of molds in tobacco is not
>>> surprising because many opportunistic molds are also
>>> common
>>> plant pathogens. Because a cigarette contains between 500
>>> and 900 mg of tobacco, as many as 270 viable fungal spores
>>> may be present in a single cigarette. The absence of fungal
>>> spores in tobacco smoke could be due to exposure to
>>> heating, nicotine, or other factors. Previous studies have
>>> found that exposure to marijuana or cigarette tobacco is
>>> correlated with exposure to Aspergillus.2-4 Although our
>>> results indicate that smoking appears to present a limited
>>> risk of inhaling fungal spores, the leaves themselves are a
>>> source of fungal spores. Given the common policy of
>>> reducing the exposure of patients at high risk to fungal
>>> spores, we believe that tobacco and marijuana should be
>>> eliminated from these patients� environments.
>>>
>>> Paul E. Verweij, MD, PhD Jos J. Kerremans, MD
>>

Sorry about the fucked up formatting. Of course, these fungal spores aren't p.cubes, but imagine all the spores floating through the air right now. I used to work tobacco, and believe me, they don't "wash" the leaves clean before it gets to you lighting your cigarette. Mold and all manner a' shit in those fuckers!

If someone has some scientific evidence about the dangers of smoking mushrooms, I'd like to see it. I haven't found any of that on the forums yet; mostly I've just found people who thinks it's gross! :smile:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11306486 - 10/23/09 02:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well besides the fact its gross and makes bongs smell like ass. It just doesnt work, just eat them.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: sui]
    #11306503 - 10/23/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that's the prevailing opinion. I'm more interested in if it is harmful. There seems to be this instant dislike for the idea on some baser level, like taste aversion except for the lungs. :tongue2:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: sui]
    #11306507 - 10/23/09 02:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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well besides the fact its gross and makes bongs smell like ass. It just doesnt work, just eat them.




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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11306532 - 10/23/09 02:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You CAN smoke anything you want... only a few substances actually do anything other than annoy/disgust/kill you.

Burning things and inhaling them is BAD... we only do that when it works. :shrug:

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11306819 - 10/23/09 03:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i love smoking mushrooms:thumbup:


er... well...... toadstools :amanitajar:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Salomon]
    #11306838 - 10/23/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Smoking mushrooms is probably the biggest waste of shrooms next to just tossing them out.
Chomp those motherfuckers down and enjoy the ride.

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Anthony917]
    #11306969 - 10/23/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

smoking actual shrooms is nasty but i did see a thread somewhere that had a guy who extracted the psilocin into a crystal form and vaporized it


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: icanttype]
    #11307225 - 10/23/09 04:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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smoking actual shrooms is nasty but i did see a thread somewhere that had a guy who extracted the psilocin into a crystal form and vaporized it





Hmm. I mean, the resin from amanita is really just the crystallized juices, right? Not the mushroom itself?

I like how everyone seems to think I have a bowl of tasty shrooms sitting here, at ready to waste by smoking.  :eatingout:  I really don't plan to smoke any thanks. No worries there. I just wanted to share an article and see if anyone had science to back up their opinion. Guess not! :wink: Ah well. If I can't trust shroomery or erowid to guide me with science, guess I'm stuck asking the school kids on the corner! LOL


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11307246 - 10/23/09 04:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

What are you saying? There doesn't need to be any science behind this

You can't smoke shrooms to get high AKA why smoke it?

People have tried and failed and looked stupid doing it

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: feifen]
    #11307307 - 10/23/09 04:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I see plenty of people on here that say a person CAN "get high" smoking shrooms, so I think the question of whether it is safe or not is very relevant.

Are you saying that you tried and failed and looked stupid because it didn't rock your socks? Or have you never tried but joined the bandwagon to say that it doesn't work without ever trying?


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11307325 - 10/23/09 04:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No one around here says you can get high smoking psilocybin mushrooms. No one with any cred, anyways.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: skateordont]
    #11307383 - 10/23/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I see. The fact that erowid says it works makes me wonder, though. I guess I'm thinking more of amanitas than regular shrooms, though.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11307654 - 10/23/09 05:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I see. The fact that erowid says it works makes me wonder, though. I guess I'm thinking more of amanitas than regular shrooms, though.




I thought they said it doesn't work. Any "high" would result in a direct placebo effect...


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: gab1159]
    #11307670 - 10/23/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I find snorting powdered mushrooms to be a very effective way of doing them

.5g hits like a brick shithouse.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: sui]
    #11307997 - 10/23/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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suimush said:
well besides the fact its gross and makes bongs smell like ass. It just doesnt work, just eat them.




Agreed. Considering they don't taste that bad at all.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11308670 - 10/23/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think it's gross, I just think it's plain stupid. :kingtard:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: trip forever]
    #11308698 - 10/23/09 08:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's a waste of mushrooms and its probably less pleasant than eating them.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: icanttype]
    #11309089 - 10/23/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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icanttype said:
smoking actual shrooms is nasty but i did see a thread somewhere that had a guy who extracted the psilocin into a crystal form and vaporized it




That's legit.

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Shroomzoom622]
    #11309203 - 10/23/09 10:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

He's talking about Amanita Muscaria mushrooms, which have nothing to do with psilocin or psilocybin.

There are reports on erowid, credible or not, that say they feel effects from smoking amanita muscaria.

I believe it's just from smoke entering the lungs that will cause some kind of effect regardless, though nothing hallucinogenic.  That plus placebo, then maybe someone will describe what they're feeling as tripping.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: hoboblues]
    #11309304 - 10/23/09 11:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

shrooms are basically edible dmt... if you want to smoke something get some dmt crystals.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: dummy]
    #11310575 - 10/24/09 08:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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shrooms are basically edible dmt... if you want to smoke something get some dmt crystals.




Not really.

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Shroomzoom622]
    #11311168 - 10/24/09 10:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well... you can't eat dmt because an enzyme will destroy it. psilocin and psilocybin are dmt with an added hydroxyl and phosphate group added to it, which among other things makes them edible. though they aren't 100% the same as ayahuasca, i think at higher doses they come close.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: dummy]
    #14610115 - 06/14/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I disagree I can feel mushrooms at extremely low doses so it's not a tolerance thing.  However at amounts as high as 1/2 oz I was extremely different from DMT.  Much more fluid and less perfect and aligned like DMT just seems to bring about.  I had to consciously maintain an extremely fine level of mental balance because any thought would send my mind off into insane tangents where I would get become afraid and then suddenly euphoric beyond belief.  That's when I realized what I was really looking for was right in the center.  Let me tell you on a 1/2 oz that revelation was quite a thing.  Golden light streaming, in feelings of utter elation, rapture and oneness, communion with god and all that is. But still unlike DMT it felt very based in life rather than somewhere else.  I feel like DMT just give you perfection and you go from there.  Mushrooms is quite different and much closer to home no matter how high the dose.

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Eternity]
    #14610117 - 06/14/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I posted in this thread? wtf? who the fuck smokes mushrooms?


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14610326 - 06/14/11 03:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

even if you could smoke them, why would you ?

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: dummy]
    #14617597 - 06/15/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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shrooms are basically edible dmt... if you want to smoke something get some dmt crystals.




For real?

Come on dude. They are both in the tryptamine family, but DMT and the host of compounds found in mushrooms are not the same chemicals and they do not metabolize into the same chemicals.

Have you smoked or eaten DMT? Have you eaten mushrooms?

If you have experience with both, you will know that they are similar yet quite distinct, both in experience and chemistry.

All I'm saying is that there's really no need to spread bad information

But yes, smoking mushrooms is a really silly thing to do

And smoking DMT is an awesome thing to do

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #14617609 - 06/15/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Jimtown said:
I find snorting powdered mushrooms to be a very effective way of doing them

.5g hits like a brick shithouse.




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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: 12468]
    #14617644 - 06/15/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

dummy said:
shrooms are basically edible dmt... if you want to smoke something get some dmt crystals.




For real?

Come on dude. They are both in the tryptamine family, but DMT and the host of compounds found in mushrooms are not the same chemicals and they do not metabolize into the same chemicals.

Have you smoked or eaten DMT? Have you eaten mushrooms?

If you have experience with both, you will know that they are similar yet quite distinct, both in experience and chemistry.

All I'm saying is that there's really no need to spread bad information

But yes, smoking mushrooms is a really silly thing to do

And smoking DMT is an awesome thing to do



perhaps that was a silly thing of me to say. but i do still think they're quite similar, especially toward the end of the experience(s). i've broken through on dmt and have eaten my fair share of potent mushrooms, i think they're very damn similar though clearly distinct. from an experiential pov, the two are more balls to the wall real compared to L. though L is very damn similar to the both of them. i'm not a biochemist, so i can't talk about biochem with you.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Anthony917]
    #14617694 - 06/15/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I posted in this thread? wtf? who the fuck smokes mushrooms?




Some day I might try it,

with edibles in something like this or that.

I did actually try it back in 1989 I think it was. It was about a bowl load. I knew no better and it was offered to me, :shrug: no effect.

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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: 4runner]
    #14618077 - 06/15/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been using shrooms since I was 13, I'm 29 now, heard so many stories from friends trying to smoke shrooms, but everyone said it didn't work (they used dry shrooms smoked like a spliff with tobacco).

Curious as to what method you use to smoke?


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #14618130 - 06/15/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

from what i understand the only way to really do it is to try to vape pure alkaloids right under their reactive temp.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: dummy]
    #14618496 - 06/15/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One time a fried loaded up some shroom shake into a bowl to smoke.  He let me take the first hit, I didn't think anything would happen.  Nothing did really, but I noticed that a picture of a forest in the autumn my friend had attached to his 'frige with a magnet seemed to have a certain depth to it, almost 3D, not quite.  Stared at it a minute and the effect stayed.  That was about the strongest "effect" from any of it other than nasty taste.  It could have been placebo but who knows.  It was pointless anyway I've had stronger effects from getting really really high on weed.

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