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For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross...
    #11306464 - 10/23/09 04:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Personally, I've never done it so I don't really have an opinion. But, while investigating its effects -- both ill and desirable -- I ran across many arguments in the forums here that stated that smoking fungus was reprehensible.

So, just some food for thought, especially if you smoke cigarettes, weed, or use blunt papers:

>>> Vol. 284 No. 22, December 13, 2000 JAMA. 2000;284
>>> (22):2875-
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>>> Fungal Contamination of Tobacco and Marijuana
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>>> To the Editor: Invasive aspergillosis remains a significant
>>> cause of morbidity and mortality in immunocompromised
>>> patients, including transplant recipients and those treated
>>> for hematological malignancy. Exposure to airborne
>>> Aspergillus spores is considered a major risk factor for
>>> acquiring infection. The guideline of the US Centers for
>>> Disease Control and Prevention recommends that potential
>>> sources of fungal spores should be eliminated to reduce the
>>> exposure of patients at high risk.1 However, the risk of
>>> invasive aspergillosis associated with tobacco or marijuana
>>> smoking is unclear. We investigated whether Aspergillus
>>> spores are present in tobacco of commercially available
>>> cigarettes and marijuana (marijuana is sold semilegally in
>>> the Netherlands), and whether burning contaminated tobacco
>>> causes release of spores. Methods. Tobacco from 98
>>> cigarettes from 14 different commercial brands and 7
>>> samples of marijuana were cultured for molds. The tobacco
>>> or marijuana was placed in 25 mL of distilled water and 1
>>> mL of distilled water with 50 �gL of Tween 20 and shaken
>>> for 5 hours. The supernatant was recentrifuged, and the
>>> residue was plated on Sabouraud dextrose agar. The plates
>>> were incubated at 29�C for 3 weeks. Sabouraud broth was
>>> added to the original tobacco and incubated at 29�C for 2
>>> weeks. A vacuum-driven water pipe was used to investigate
>>> the level of fungal contamination of tobacco smoke. Tobacco
>>> was contaminated with 106 CFU/mL Aspergillus fumigatus
>>> spores and then rolled into cigarettes. Each cigarette was
>>> attached to a mouthpiece, lighted, and the smoke was pulled
>>> through a 0.22-�gm micropore filter for approximately 5
>>> minutes. The smoke of 40 contaminated cigarettes was
>>> cultured, including 20 cigarettes with a filter attached
>>> and 20 without the filters. Results. All cigarette brands
>>> tested had some degree of fungal contamination, although
>>> not every cigarette was found to have a positive culture
>>> (TABLE). Between 1 and 5 different fungal species were
>>> cultured from each cigarette, but A fumigatus was the most
>>> frequently isolated organism. Other opportunistic molds
>>> recovered from tobacco included Fusarium, Acremonium,
>>> Rhizopus, and Scedosporium species. Marijuana was also
>>> heavily contaminated with molds, with Penicillium species
>>> predominating. The smoke from the 20 cigarettes with a
>>> filter as well as that from 20 cigarettes without was
>>> negative for growth of molds. Comment.
>>>
>>> We found tobacco and marijuana are heavily contaminated
>>> with fungal spores. The finding of molds in tobacco is not
>>> surprising because many opportunistic molds are also
>>> common
>>> plant pathogens. Because a cigarette contains between 500
>>> and 900 mg of tobacco, as many as 270 viable fungal spores
>>> may be present in a single cigarette. The absence of fungal
>>> spores in tobacco smoke could be due to exposure to
>>> heating, nicotine, or other factors. Previous studies have
>>> found that exposure to marijuana or cigarette tobacco is
>>> correlated with exposure to Aspergillus.2-4 Although our
>>> results indicate that smoking appears to present a limited
>>> risk of inhaling fungal spores, the leaves themselves are a
>>> source of fungal spores. Given the common policy of
>>> reducing the exposure of patients at high risk to fungal
>>> spores, we believe that tobacco and marijuana should be
>>> eliminated from these patients� environments.
>>>
>>> Paul E. Verweij, MD, PhD Jos J. Kerremans, MD
>>

Sorry about the fucked up formatting. Of course, these fungal spores aren't p.cubes, but imagine all the spores floating through the air right now. I used to work tobacco, and believe me, they don't "wash" the leaves clean before it gets to you lighting your cigarette. Mold and all manner a' shit in those fuckers!

If someone has some scientific evidence about the dangers of smoking mushrooms, I'd like to see it. I haven't found any of that on the forums yet; mostly I've just found people who thinks it's gross! :smile:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11306486 - 10/23/09 04:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

well besides the fact its gross and makes bongs smell like ass. It just doesnt work, just eat them.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: sui]
    #11306503 - 10/23/09 04:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that's the prevailing opinion. I'm more interested in if it is harmful. There seems to be this instant dislike for the idea on some baser level, like taste aversion except for the lungs. :tongue2:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: sui]
    #11306507 - 10/23/09 04:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

suimush said:
well besides the fact its gross and makes bongs smell like ass. It just doesnt work, just eat them.




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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11306532 - 10/23/09 04:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

You CAN smoke anything you want... only a few substances actually do anything other than annoy/disgust/kill you.

Burning things and inhaling them is BAD... we only do that when it works. :shrug:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #11306819 - 10/23/09 05:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i love smoking mushrooms:thumbup:


er... well...... toadstools :amanitajar:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Salomon]
    #11306838 - 10/23/09 05:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Smoking mushrooms is probably the biggest waste of shrooms next to just tossing them out.
Chomp those motherfuckers down and enjoy the ride.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Anthony917]
    #11306969 - 10/23/09 05:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

smoking actual shrooms is nasty but i did see a thread somewhere that had a guy who extracted the psilocin into a crystal form and vaporized it


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: icanttype]
    #11307225 - 10/23/09 06:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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icanttype said:
smoking actual shrooms is nasty but i did see a thread somewhere that had a guy who extracted the psilocin into a crystal form and vaporized it





Hmm. I mean, the resin from amanita is really just the crystallized juices, right? Not the mushroom itself?

I like how everyone seems to think I have a bowl of tasty shrooms sitting here, at ready to waste by smoking.  :eatingout:  I really don't plan to smoke any thanks. No worries there. I just wanted to share an article and see if anyone had science to back up their opinion. Guess not! :wink: Ah well. If I can't trust shroomery or erowid to guide me with science, guess I'm stuck asking the school kids on the corner! LOL


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11307246 - 10/23/09 06:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What are you saying? There doesn't need to be any science behind this

You can't smoke shrooms to get high AKA why smoke it?

People have tried and failed and looked stupid doing it


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: feifen]
    #11307307 - 10/23/09 06:26 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I see plenty of people on here that say a person CAN "get high" smoking shrooms, so I think the question of whether it is safe or not is very relevant.

Are you saying that you tried and failed and looked stupid because it didn't rock your socks? Or have you never tried but joined the bandwagon to say that it doesn't work without ever trying?


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11307325 - 10/23/09 06:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

No one around here says you can get high smoking psilocybin mushrooms. No one with any cred, anyways.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: skateordont]
    #11307383 - 10/23/09 06:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I see. The fact that erowid says it works makes me wonder, though. I guess I'm thinking more of amanitas than regular shrooms, though.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11307654 - 10/23/09 07:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

morierblackleaf said:
I see. The fact that erowid says it works makes me wonder, though. I guess I'm thinking more of amanitas than regular shrooms, though.




I thought they said it doesn't work. Any "high" would result in a direct placebo effect...


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: gab1159]
    #11307670 - 10/23/09 07:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I find snorting powdered mushrooms to be a very effective way of doing them

.5g hits like a brick shithouse.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: sui]
    #11307997 - 10/23/09 08:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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suimush said:
well besides the fact its gross and makes bongs smell like ass. It just doesnt work, just eat them.




Agreed. Considering they don't taste that bad at all.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: morierblackleaf]
    #11308670 - 10/23/09 10:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think it's gross, I just think it's plain stupid. :kingtard:


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: trip forever]
    #11308698 - 10/23/09 10:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It's a waste of mushrooms and its probably less pleasant than eating them.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: icanttype]
    #11309089 - 10/24/09 12:26 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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icanttype said:
smoking actual shrooms is nasty but i did see a thread somewhere that had a guy who extracted the psilocin into a crystal form and vaporized it




That's legit.


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Re: For Anyone Who Thinks Smoking Mushrooms is Gross... [Re: Shroomzoom622]
    #11309203 - 10/24/09 12:53 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

He's talking about Amanita Muscaria mushrooms, which have nothing to do with psilocin or psilocybin.

There are reports on erowid, credible or not, that say they feel effects from smoking amanita muscaria.

I believe it's just from smoke entering the lungs that will cause some kind of effect regardless, though nothing hallucinogenic.  That plus placebo, then maybe someone will describe what they're feeling as tripping.


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