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Liberty caps with dark stems?
    #11306072 - 10/23/09 03:04 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I found a patch of what I figure are liberty caps, however their stems are a redish/orangeish. Is this common? Are there any other species they could be? I am in Newfoundland, Canada.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306082 - 10/23/09 03:04 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

They are not libs. You found inactive Pans, most likely.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11306106 - 10/23/09 03:07 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

haha, no they are psilocybes, trust me. They have the caps of semis but orangeish stems. i'd post some pics but my camera is at my girlfriend's house.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306182 - 10/23/09 03:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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haha, no they are psilocybes, trust me.



If you ask if it is common for Psilocybe semilanceata to have orange-reddish stipes, how can you be so certain that you are able to safely ID a Psilocybe?


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306193 - 10/23/09 03:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Well until theres pics nobody can say either way for certain. So pics=ID.  The stem color sounds like that of a Pan. to me also. I have picked Libs with a quite yellowish stem though.
Good point Kahuna.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306206 - 10/23/09 03:24 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
    #11306267 - 10/23/09 03:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Found a camera.

Kahuna: Even someone with a fraction of the experience I have could clearly pick these out as psilocybes.



Notice the second from the right is particularly dark.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306275 - 10/23/09 03:38 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Darker stems due to age. That's common, yes.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: koraks]
    #11306290 - 10/23/09 03:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Next time post pics first, and save everyone the drama.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306292 - 10/23/09 03:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks koraks!

I have never noticed dark stems on any of the libs I have picked before. The concept these were particularly dark due to age makes sense in this scenario. I saw the patch a week ago but couldn't pick them until today. In that time we have had cold, wet weather, and even some fluries.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306299 - 10/23/09 03:41 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, some people like drama. Big thanks to koraks for answering the question asked objectively, and not using it to boost shroom-ego.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306310 - 10/23/09 03:43 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

the question was is it common for liberty caps to have colored stems. the answer was yes. you think it'd be simple, hey? :p


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306312 - 10/23/09 03:43 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Lol @ telling a trusted identifier to trust you.


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: Wiseguy]
    #11306324 - 10/23/09 03:46 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Those are libs. Showing the pics right away would have cleared that up.
And I disagree that it is common. Only very small fraction of all libs I find have this dark discoloration due to being aged.


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Edited by German Kahuna (10/23/09 03:50 PM)


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Re: Liberty caps with dark stems? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11306963 - 10/23/09 05:26 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

A lot of the P. Strictipes i've found have a red colouration on the stems, though I find it on Semi's quite often also. I think it may be related to the soil they're growing in.


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