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Help identifying shaggy manes
    #11303953 - 10/23/09 02:42 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I think I've found a large patch of Coprinus Comatus(shaggy mane), but I'm not an experienced mushroom hunter. I need to know if there are any poisonous mushrooms that resemble the shaggy mane. If there are, what are they called, and how can I tell the difference?

Thanks in advance for any help!


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11303960 - 10/23/09 02:44 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I just did a search and did find some info her eon the site in some other threads. Please feel free to comment anyway if you'd like. I'm going to take some pics of the patch and post them here tomorrow a anyway..


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11303963 - 10/23/09 02:45 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

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I just did a search and did find some info her eon the site in some other threads. Please feel free to comment anyway if you'd like. I'm going to take some pics of the patch and post them here tomorrow a anyway..




If they're still young enough to eat, they should be pretty obvious.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11303982 - 10/23/09 02:51 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

The issue with "look-a-likes" is that it is very subjective.  I don't think that there are any C. comatus look-a-likes outside of the genus Coprinus, none of which are toxic.  However when you are starting out, you might not notice a lot of the distinguishing features, so a lot of mushrooms may look very similar.

Please post photos.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11303997 - 10/23/09 02:56 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

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I think I've found a large patch of Coprinus Comatus(shaggy mane), but I'm not an experienced mushroom hunter. I need to know if there are any poisonous mushrooms that resemble the shaggy mane. If there are, what are they called, and how can I tell the difference?

Thanks in advance for any help!




One common poisonous mushroom that looks like a Shaggy Mane is Chlorophyllum molybdites.  You can tell the different because the spore prints are different colors and only one melts.  Shaggys have black spore prints and they melt.  C. molybdites has a green spore print.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304020 - 10/23/09 03:03 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I will still post photos to be sure..
As far as i can tell(from researching online), most of the "look alikes" seem to be more parasol-shaped, whereas the shaggy manes caps seem to be more elongated..

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The mushrooms in the patch that are opening do appear as though the gills are turning black and melting.

I will post photos of this as well.

I also have a spore print started, and should be able to confirm the color tomorrow morning.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11304037 - 10/23/09 03:10 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

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I will still post photos to be sure..
As far as i can tell(from researching online), most of the "look alikes" seem to be more parasol-shaped, whereas the shaggy manes caps seem to be more elongated..





THIS. :laugh: :thumbup:

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The mushrooms in the patch that are opening do appear as though the gills are turning black and melting.






By this time, they are not usually as ... delectable


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11304045 - 10/23/09 03:12 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Indeed, C. comatus is more oval shaped, compared with the rounder Lepiotoid species (such as C. molybdites as MM mentioned).

You do not need to get a spore print if you can tell that the gills are deliquescing (melting into inky goop).  You will just end up with a gross watery mess.

Also, you need to eat them before the gills turn black, or again, you will end up with an inky, gross mess.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: CureCat]
    #11304145 - 10/23/09 04:03 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Thanks for the info everybody!

It looks as though tomorrow I'm going to be making an attempt at preserving some of these in the freezer.
I'm guessing that due to the melting effect, these mushrooms are not very good for drying.
Do any of you have any experience with this?


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11304160 - 10/23/09 04:09 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

You can put them in ice water in the frig.  That will hold them for a day or so.  Do not freeze them.  They will end up a mess.  Young Shaggy Manes can be air-dried.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304186 - 10/23/09 04:18 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

should I pick them with the caps still closed then and dry them? can they be dried in the oven?


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11304187 - 10/23/09 04:18 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

If they are very young, with pure white gills (not pink, grey, or black), and you dry them at a fairly warm temperature, it might work.  I have had some success with that. 

Another time I tried drying them when the gills were just barely pink and they turned into this foul smelly goop.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11304211 - 10/23/09 04:28 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Hmm.. Well, I don't want to stink up my kitchen lol.

Are you sure it's not a good idea to blanch and freeze them? I've found a few websites that say this is a good way to store them..


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11304303 - 10/23/09 05:17 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

If those websites are saying you can freeze Shaggy Manes they are incorrect, even after blanching.  You might get away with that with button mushrooms from the store, maybe.  They are the hardest mushrooms to keep.  That's why they don't sell them in the stores.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304322 - 10/23/09 05:31 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Most mushrooms you can saute up and then freeze.  MM, you don't think that would work?


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: CureCat]
    #11304394 - 10/23/09 06:14 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

He said, "Are you sure it's not a good idea to blanch and freeze them?"  Sauting and freezing is fine.  I do that with most of my Chants.  Blanching and freezing, particularly with Shaggy Manes, would result in a mess.

You can freeze fresh Gymnopilus luteus though.  You just blender it after it thaws and add lots of chocolate syrup.  :grin:  Still tastes like crap though.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304432 - 10/23/09 06:38 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

I've found cooking also destroys the chemical processes involved in liquification. Just brown them in a dry pan, maybe add a little oil near the end and they'll keep in the fridge until you're ready for em.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304436 - 10/23/09 06:40 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

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You can freeze fresh Gymnopilus luteus though.  You just blender it after it thaws and add lots of chocolate syrup.  :grin:  Still tastes like crap though.



Yeah that sounds pretty awful.  :lol:


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: CureCat]
    #11305499 - 10/23/09 01:06 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Thanks a lot MM for the advice.
I think I'll try drying the young ones in slices. I found an asian foods website selling bags of dried shaggy manes, and they look like they're thin sliced and white.

I'm also going to try a few freezing techniques just for the experience.

Getting ready to head over to the patch now.


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Re: Help identifying shaggy manes [Re: splarm]
    #11306513 - 10/23/09 04:14 PM (12 years, 4 days ago)

Here are the pics I took today!



Let me know what you think!
Thanks!


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