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Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria?
    #11303819 - 10/23/09 02:03 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Well this is cool. My sister today tells me that here friend has an old horse field at her house that she invited her to try last year.natuarally i say lets go and we instantly head out there.

So her friend offers me a beer and we head out back,both her and my sister light these big stompers.:wink: We get out there and she instantly looks down and says is this one.Usually first mushroom found by an old noob isnt a psilocybe but nope.Sure as shit she has found one and we look around this really tall fallen down grass.We found this patch and a bunch of pinheads.Just a small area .I was very happy to find even a few psilocybes from a new spot!

Now my reasoning for Stuntzii var. tenius is obvioulsy the grass and the partial veil remnents.I have picked grass loving stunziis by the hundreds in this soccer field but thats like short lawn grass.This is crazy thick tall grass!!A horse field.

The only reason for maybe Fimetaria is the similiar veil in the small ones and veil remnants on some and the fact that its a horse field.There is not fresh dung though so I am not sure.

History of the field is for years it was ran by horses til it was totally bare.My sisters friends have lived there for 3 years now without horses and have let it over grow .

The mushrooms were small and brown,some having a beauty blue tinge on the edge.The caps have a viscid pellicle,a veil,and are hypraganous(sorry for spelling).The stems are thick and hollow,enlarging at the base,some have veil remnants.

I thinking stunzii even though this habitat its totally new to me for picking them.
what do you think?


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11303965 - 10/23/09 02:47 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Those are very interesting!

What state are you in?

I am not familiar with this species.  I guess it could be the grass dwelling P. stuntzii, but it doesn't look much like the ones I have seen.

You should send a specimen to Workman an/or Alan.  They have microscopes and can take a look at them and see what they are.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: CureCat]
    #11303985 - 10/23/09 02:53 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Jesus please us.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11303996 - 10/23/09 02:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Mr. Mushrooms also has a microscope, I'm sure he would be happy to look at it for you as well!


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: CureCat]
    #11303998 - 10/23/09 02:58 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

CureCat said:
Mr. Mushrooms also has a microscope, I'm sure he would be happy to look at it for you as well!




:grin:  Like Workman said about the squeaky wheel.  Yes, and I collect spore prints (not that many others don't).

And to clear up the record, I now have 5 microscopes. :smile:


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: CureCat]
    #11304001 - 10/23/09 02:59 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I am more north being in a province and not a state;) in BC .

They do resemble stuntziis in a way but its been a few years since ive picked them.Nice looking mushrooms in their younger state.Mature musrooms which were rotting had their caps more opened up more like a cyan.i wish i got more pics of them in the ground but we thought we had a gold mine and then only found a few.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11304003 - 10/23/09 02:59 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Exciting! What about P. Linformans v. Americana? I the stems look off though kinda, but it is a grass dwelling.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
    #11304008 - 10/23/09 03:00 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I think that's a better match than the other two.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11304022 - 10/23/09 03:04 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

mister mushrooms i would be happy to send you a spore print. pm me and maybe we can trade something.:smile:
I am in contact with workman already regarding the "flatties" which you can view in the pnw active thread. and i mentioned these too and will hopefully be sending a sample to him.

why linoformans anyways? whats your reasoning on that? they are closely related to semis which these my friends are not.partial veil,nice blueing calling for psilcin, thick stems?


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11304040 - 10/23/09 03:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Linformans because it's smaller and grows on grass, that is, the overall appearance.  I'm not saying that's what it is, it just looks like a better match.  Make sure you send one to anyone you have already promised.

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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11304052 - 10/23/09 03:18 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

few more pics


personally i have never seen a confirmed linoforman other than in stamets book. which these dont really look like but you have a microscope so maybe you have seen one.it would be linforman var. canadiana though.haha;)


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11305245 - 10/23/09 12:07 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This was generating some interest last night so i will bring it back up.I was enjoying the debate over this,at this point, unidentified psilcybe.
couple more pics.:smile:


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11305884 - 10/23/09 02:29 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Great Finds and fun thread. Make sure you dry a few and save em as tissue samples. They might become useful later on.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
    #11305990 - 10/23/09 02:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Cool find!  They don't look like stuntzii to me, none has an annulus that I can see.  (that rhymes)

The veil remnants look very whispy like cyans, although they aren't cyans of course. 

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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: caphillkid]
    #11306076 - 10/23/09 03:04 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

ya I saved all the caps for analysis.mind you i wouldn't mind popping a few.:wink: they do in a way resemble cyans, i see that.but i have picked those before and they do look different.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #11306245 - 10/23/09 03:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Horse field? I swear i see a subb there.

The first one and the fifth one look the most.

edit: I dont know if im missing it but did you ever mention the color of the spore print? You should print the caps i mentioned.


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    #11306397 - 10/23/09 03:57 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: thelaughingman]
    #11306410 - 10/23/09 03:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Dude don't misquote me please.  Those are definitely not Panaeolus.


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: caphillkid]
    #11306527 - 10/23/09 04:16 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry, it was just for the sake of the rhyme :/.

You dont think cap one and five look like subbs? I mean theres obviously no fresh shit but id imagine if a freshly sodded lawn can bare them an old densly soiled horse field could :tongue:


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Re: Horse field P. Stunzii or P Fimetaria? [Re: thelaughingman]
    #11306807 - 10/23/09 04:59 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

heres the purple brown spores we all want to see.


what kind of subbs are you talking about? pan sub?? not even close.


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