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noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right??
    #11303543 - 10/23/09 01:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

just put 5 casings together. using the 50/50 plus tek. i put a layer of the substrate on the bottom, then 2 broken up cakes per tray, with about a half inch of substate on top of that. i misted them and put the lids back on, and poked 6 holes in each lid.

now, im reading the tek and it makes it sound like i put it straight in the fruiting chamber. i thought i was supposed to put them back into incubation until the mycelium makes its way to the top.

can someone help me here???



do i incubate or should i throw them in the fruiting chamber?


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11303568 - 10/23/09 01:09 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

incubate...colonization needs to happen. However, fruiting temps wouldn't ruin anything. Incubation would allow for MORE colonized substrate=more nutrients=more and/or bigger fruits. Adding a casing layer on top of that is up to you
Goodluck mate!

p.s. try and break those cakes up a little more, but don't stress it now.


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11303594 - 10/23/09 01:12 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

word. thanks man. ill keep them in the incubation chamber, and once i see mycelium take over the entire thing, ill fruit it.

so once its fully colonized, i can put another layer on top of THAT? then what, incubate again and fruit, or just fruit right from there?


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11303607 - 10/23/09 01:15 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

fruit from there.
That would be a casing layer. It's kind of like mulch is to plants.
The casing layer provides for moisture, humidity and not much else. But people have different theories. A lot of folks don't like the casing layer to have any nutrients. So they use things like peat-moss, vermiculite, and coir.
Join the casing layer debate, haha


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11303826 - 10/23/09 02:07 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

well ill have quite a few trays, so ill be able to experiment. i even have some coir around here somewhere. might give that stuff a whirl and see what it does in comparison to the 50/50 plus casing tek.


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11303858 - 10/23/09 02:17 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

use the coir for spawn and use non nutritive things for casing


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: truskool]
    #11303883 - 10/23/09 02:24 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Don't place it straight in the FC, let it incubate for about 3 days then check it to see if the mycelium is colonizing the top layer of the casing. You want to place the casing in the FC when you can see the mycelium coming up through the casing cracks. Once that happens place into fruiting conditions.



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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: truskool]
    #11303914 - 10/23/09 02:34 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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use the coir for spawn and use non nutritive things for casing




can you explain this a little better?

coir for spawn?

non nutritious things for casings?


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: Satori23]
    #11303921 - 10/23/09 02:37 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't place it straight in the FC, let it incubate for about 3 days then check it to see if the mycelium is colonizing the top layer of the casing. You want to place the casing in the FC when you can see the mycelium coming up through the casing cracks. Once that happens place into fruiting conditions.






and from there i take it that it doesnt need any more mistings, the FC will take care of the humidity? do you put more casing substrate stuff on the parts that mushrooms come off of?


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11303929 - 10/23/09 02:38 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

coir is nutritious and should be used as a substrate
mix your wbs,cakes(spawn) with your coir

casing layer non nutritious like verm and peat


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11303948 - 10/23/09 02:41 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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coir is nutritious and should be used as a substrate
mix your wbs,cakes(spawn) with your coir

casing layer non nutritious like verm and peat


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11303970 - 10/23/09 02:48 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

interesting... ill have to look up some more teks for the next casings.


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11304980 - 10/23/09 10:47 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

there is a small debate on using coir to case, but it is starting to be discouraged.
A mod did an experiment with two monotubs using peat/verm in one and coir in the other as casing layers.
The one with peat did expectedly better but the coir one still worked.
If you're going for quantity and quality go with peat/verm definitely.

Compared to coir I've heard peat moss is very harsh on the environment (they drag whole lakes and bogs to get to it :sad:), but I'm not too sure many people on here care about that. I still buy peat moss though I'm looking for an alternative


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Re: noob made 5 casings.. am i doing this right?? [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11305194 - 10/23/09 11:46 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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Don't place it straight in the FC, let it incubate for about 3 days then check it to see if the mycelium is colonizing the top layer of the casing. You want to place the casing in the FC when you can see the mycelium coming up through the casing cracks. Once that happens place into fruiting conditions.






and from there i take it that it doesnt need any more mistings, the FC will take care of the humidity? do you put more casing substrate stuff on the parts that mushrooms come off of?






You should still mist a couple times a day, but fan well after you mist; the evaporating water is beneficial. You don't have to patch when you harvest, if you just gently twist not a great deal of the casing will really be lost.


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