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Does the older generation like hip-hop?
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I don't know. I know my mom and dad don't like hip-hop. Does the generation from the 60's/70's generally see hip-hop as crass and a decline in musical taste?

What about grunge? Indie?


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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No new groups have been worth a shit since skynyrd's plane went down. Some of the older groups still put out some good music.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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My brother was born in 1970 and has a completely closed mind towards hip-hop.  Meanwhile, there's people born around the same time that make hip-hop music.

I personally think that people should be able to find at least something worthwhile in every musical genre, if they're trying to call themselves open-minded.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Band of Gypsys said:
No new groups have been worth a shit since skynyrd's plane went down. Some of the older groups still put out some good music.


Dude, what does skynyrd have to do with hip-hop? :lol:

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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There's lots of sick hip hop but you dont hear it on the radio. I love chester p the most though, very philosophical hip hop.


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: truffleupagus]
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SilentGym said:
Band of Gypsys said:
No new groups have been worth a shit since skynyrd's plane went down. Some of the older groups still put out some good music.


Dude, what does skynyrd have to do with hip-hop? :lol:


No new music since 1977 is worth a shit. Is their hip hop from before 1977? I don't think so.

I actually don't mind Ice cube. My brother listens to that.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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EternalCowabunga said:
I don't know. I know my mom and dad don't like hip-hop. Does the generation from the 60's/70's generally see hip-hop as crass and a decline in musical taste?

What about grunge? Indie?

Fuck hip-hop; I tell everyone who listens to that shit that they most likely will hate it when they're older<====EDIT


IMO, it's just a sheepie trend, like most other things in society. :sheepie:

Edited by Poid (10/22/09 05:30 PM)

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
EternalCowabunga said:
I don't know. I know my mom and dad don't like hip-hop. Does the generation from the 60's/70's generally see hip-hop as crass and a decline in musical taste?

What about grunge? Indie?

Fuck hip-hop; I tell everyone who listens to that shit that they most likely will hate it when they're younger.


IMO, it's just a sheepie trend, like most other things in society. :sheepie:


Bollocks, any musical style that has feeling and creativity can be good.


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Trendy music can be creative and elicit feeling in people. :shrug:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Poid]
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If it's creative original and has genuine feeling that came from the author, then IMO it's all personal taste after that. How can you say everything in a genre is rubbish?


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Grapefruit said:
How can you say everything in a genre is rubbish?

How can you say that absolutely everything in whatever given drama is completely fantastic? :strokebeard:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Poid]
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Where did I say this?


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Didn't say you said it, I'm just saying that the only thing that matters in terms of the quality of music is the actual quality of the music; music's im/popularity does not define its artistic merit.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Edited by Poid (10/22/09 05:50 PM)

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Poid]
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Totally agree but quality is not related to the type of music the artist is making, it's in the artists hands.


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Grapefruit said:
Totally agree but quality is not related to the type of music the artist is making..

Can you give an example to provide your assertion here?

I personally see that the quality of music is definitely related to the genre of music the artist is composing, however directly or indirectly.



Grapefruit said:
it's in the artists hands.

Yup. :thumbup:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Poid]
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There are plenty of very talented hip hop artists out ther who put out great quality music, it's just personal taste if you like their style or not. There are people out there who will dislike the style of music you listen to but that doesn't mean you listen to rubbish music.


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Just chat your fraff
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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Grapefruit]
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well the reality of the situation is - ugh i fucking hate this fucking way to communicating.

Okay, so whats realyl going on here is that fucking hiphop is so stupid now adays.

BTW parents dont like hiphop they usually listen to what they listened to when they were 20...kind of interesting...do you think we will stay mentally stuck by the time we reach late 20's? Maybe its when we begin to work...that would make sense.


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
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Grapefruit said:
There are plenty of very talented hip hop artists out ther who put out great quality music, it's just personal taste if you like their style or not. There are people out there who will dislike the style of music you listen to but that doesn't mean you listen to rubbish music.

So just this is your point?



AlphaFalfa said:
well the reality of the situation is - ugh i fucking hate this fucking way to communicating.

Okay, so whats realyl going on here is that fucking hiphop is so stupid now adays.

BTW parents dont like hiphop they usually listen to what they listened to when they were 20...kind of interesting...do you think we will stay mentally stuck by the time we reach late 20's? Maybe its when we begin to work...that would make sense.

I believe that good music never gets old. :sadyes:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
Grapefruit said:
How can you say everything in a genre is rubbish?

How can you say that absolutely everything in whatever given drama is completely fantastic? :strokebeard:


Poid you're asking the exact same question.

Still, how can you say, which you did, that every single artist in the genre of hip-hop is "shit," as you so eloquently put it?
Poid said:
Trendy music can be creative and elicit feeling in people. :shrug:


how is hip hop any more trendy than the next genre and how is it a "sheeple trend?"


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Re: Does the older generation like hip-hop? [Re: learningtofly]
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Quote:
learningtofly said:
Poid you're asking the exact same question.

Which question am I asking more than once? :confused:


Quote:
learningtofly said:
Still, how can you say, which you did, that every single artist in the genre of hip-hop is "shit,"...

I didn't say the particular artist was "shit", I just said that their art (i.e.- hip-hop) is shit, in general. Let me expound further on this statement by saying that I believe that most, but not all hip-hop shit.



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learningtofly said:
how is hip hop any more trendy than the next genre...

It isn't, did you think I was implying this or something? :confused:



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learningtofly said:
...and how is it a "sheeple trend?"

:rofl2:, you can't be serious! :haha:

All trends are :sheepie: trends....


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