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Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine?
    #11299557 - 10/22/09 01:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I just convinced my girlfriend not to get it. I will be sending an email out to my family tonight, urging them to weigh their options. (Which I will post here when it is finished)

The WHO has Swine Flu killing a total of 3000 people (the highest estimate I could find) since its emergence over 6 months ago. I can't help but notice this is a minuscule number when the world population is taken into account. Granted, the Flu season is not yet upon us.

I just have a bad feeling about this. We can look at what is going on with Health Care reform that these Pharmaceutical Companies have a tight hold in Washington, couldn't this Swine Flu scare just be a ploy to make billions of dollars? The media is constantly making this out to be a pandemic and what not, but I'm just not seeing it as that. Please share you thoughts.

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Hello family,

I’m writing this email because I feel in good conscious I need to. This is in regards to the Swine flu (H1N1) vaccine, which the mainstream media has considered a “pandemic” over the past six months.

First off, according to the WHO (World Health Organization) the Swine flu has killed world wide approximately three-thousand people since its debut over six months ago. Although the CDC (Center for Disease Control) does not quantify deaths from the standard seasonal flu, other organizations put the number near thirty to forty thousand, with hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations in America alone each year. So which of these should we worry more about?

The Swine flu vaccine was rush produced to be ready by this years flu season. The Swine flu has proven to be as mild as the standard flu which we have been living with for decades. If you normally get a seasonal flu shot, you may chose to or not to get one this season. Yet, the evidence and articles I will allude to show the Swine flu vaccination may have more negatives than positives.

Let’s take Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Kent Holtorf’s account of the H1N1 virus and vaccine. Dr. Holtorf says that the severity of the Swine flu has proven to be much less than originally thought, and if you had to choose between getting the seasonal flu and the Swine flu, you may want to choose the Swine flu! He then goes on to conclude that the level of neurotoxins, including Mercury which is twenty-five thousand times the amount considered toxic in foods, make the vaccine too risky, outweighing any potential benefits.
Watch for yourself:


In another report, coming out of Britain, in reference to certain chemicals in the Swine Flu vaccine the article states: “It also contains a chemical called squalene, used to stimulate the immune system to respond to the vaccine. Some scientists believe squalene is linked to autoimmune illnesses including multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.” http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/122228

Even more disheartening is a report by Dr. Joe Mercola, that the Swine flu vaccine may be linked to a nerve disorder known as Guillain-Barre Syndrome, causing paralysis and inability to breath. The doctor also makes reference to the 1976 swine flu vaccine in which:
- More people died from the vaccine than from swine flu
- The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times
- The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear
- The U.S. Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected
Dr. Mercola states, “Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.”

I wanted to offer an alternative to the “Get the vaccine!” you may be hearing around work or on the TV. The point of this email is not to scare, but the exact opposite. I wanted to shed light on the idea that the Swine flu is no more severe, and actually less scary, than the regular seasonal flu. Big pharmaceutical companies stand to make billions of dollars if everyone gets this vaccine, and it would be naïve to think this money isn’t talking!

To protect yourself from the flu, and any other illness for that matter, one can take simple steps such as eating healthy (especially B vitamins), exercising, staying warm and washing your hands – and perhaps no less important: Seeing through the fear mongering of the network media! Whether you decided to get the vaccine or not, I hope this gives you something to think about. Feel free to forward this to anyone who may care to read it.

Love,
Andrew
Will you get the Swine Flu vaccine?
You may choose only one
Yes
No
Yes, and I will urge my loved ones to get it as well
No, and I will urge my loved ones NOT to get it
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Votes accepted from (10/22/09 01:21 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11299607 - 10/22/09 01:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

My school is giving out free H1N1 vaccinations, and anyone at our school who gets vaccinated is entered for a chance to win a TV, so yes I'm getting the vaccine.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11299634 - 10/22/09 01:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the vaccine is NOT FREE. by getting it you're just increasing the demand for the vaccine and giving more profits to big pharma. :thumbdown:

oh and lol at a chance to win a free tv. look in the classifieds and buy a tv for 20$.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11299659 - 10/22/09 01:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

No. Fuck that. :shrug:


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11299767 - 10/22/09 01:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Newfound_wonder said:
My school is giving out free H1N1 vaccinations, and anyone at our school who gets vaccinated is entered for a chance to win a TV, so yes I'm getting the vaccine.




My school is as well. They aren't bribing us with TVs though...


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Cameron]
    #11299780 - 10/22/09 01:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Is there any reason not to get it? Or is there any reason to get it?

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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: metalmorph]
    #11299821 - 10/22/09 01:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

metalmorph said:
Is there any reason not to get it? Or is there any reason to get it?

Please elaborate




I thought I heard something about mercury being in the vaccine? And other shit that's not so good.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: metalmorph]
    #11299904 - 10/22/09 02:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Personally, I think H1N1 has been completely blown out of proportion by the media -- heavily sensationalized for profit. It's just another strain of the flu, and I haven't read anything credible yet to convince me otherwise.

I refuse to let alarmist trends frighten me into a hastily prepared vaccine :shrug:


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Cameron]
    #11299920 - 10/22/09 02:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Indubitably]
    #11300017 - 10/22/09 02:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Nope.
Here's my reasoning -- Call me out if you see a hole in it:
Evolution is about survival.
Vaccinating against a virus is giving it an ultimatum... evolve or die out.
When a virus doesn't really pose a great threat to me (this one doesn't) it is absurd to make such a demand.
I could very possibly create something deadlier by causing the strains that mutate to be the ones that survive and thrive.

It just seems silly to force something relatively benign to quickly mutate, not knowing what may result.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Kickle]
    #11300198 - 10/22/09 02:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Viruses aren't alive and therefore cannot die.  Getting a vaccination does not increase the chances of a virus mutating into a stronger strain because mutations are random events; the vaccine will simply kill any H1N1 strain that hasn't mutated into a stronger form.

Reasons to get it:
I don't have time to get sick, nor would I want to if I had free time.

Reasons not to get it:
It costs money (for some)
It takes energy to drag my ass to the clinic to get the vaccine.
...Big Pharma profits?

The choice is yours.  Use that free will wisely.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11300429 - 10/22/09 03:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

There is no way I am getting it. I work in a hospital and I am in direct patient care, but there is still no way I am getting the N1H1 virus and I never get the "regular" flu vaccine either. Seriously if people wash their hands and what not properly they should be fine. I agree with getting most vaccines just not this one.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11300520 - 10/22/09 03:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Newfound_wonder said:
Viruses aren't alive and therefore cannot die.  Getting a vaccination does not increase the chances of a virus mutating into a stronger strain because mutations are random events; the vaccine will simply kill any H1N1 strain that hasn't mutated into a stronger form.

Reasons to get it:
I don't have time to get sick, nor would I want to if I had free time.

Reasons not to get it:
It costs money (for some)
It takes energy to drag my ass to the clinic to get the vaccine.
...Big Pharma profits?

The choice is yours.  Use that free will wisely.




So, which is it free will, or random events?


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Mnboardin]
    #11300810 - 10/22/09 04:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

One day I was painting at a clients house and she was watching a "news report", on fox I believe, and i barely paid attention at first but It started to sound like a commercial.

So then I was just dying to hear it.

And It was a commercial.  An entire hour of Fox news wasting communications and time on selling the public a vaccine which probably does more harm than good.

Who does the Government work for again?  Oh, the people, yea, that's right.

To the OP,  I refuse as well.  Whatever happens, happens.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11300830 - 10/22/09 04:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Not after seeing this video.  Happend a few months ago.



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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: metalmorph]
    #11300926 - 10/22/09 04:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

metalmorph said:
Is there any reason not to get it? Or is there any reason to get it?

Please elaborate




Reasons to get it- maybe if you have AIDS or something.

Reasons not to get it- Swine flu hasn't killed nearly as many people as the regular flu, only has a mortality rate of .01%, and the injection contains thiomersal, which has about 15,000 times the amount of mercury allowed in a serving of fish, or so I've heard.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #11300951 - 10/22/09 04:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:

    * More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu
    * The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times
    * The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear
    * The U.S. Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected





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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11300960 - 10/22/09 04:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck getting that shit. :nonono:


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Poid]
    #11300997 - 10/22/09 04:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Indubitably]
    #11301255 - 10/22/09 05:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well here is a copy of the email I sent out to my family today... feel free to steal it and send it out yourself:

Hello family,

I’m writing this email because I feel in good conscious I need to. This is in regards to the Swine flu (H1N1) vaccine, which the mainstream media has considered a “pandemic” over the past six months.

First off, according to the WHO (World Health Organization) the Swine flu has killed world wide approximately three-thousand people since its debut over six months ago. Although the CDC (Center for Disease Control) does not quantify deaths from the standard seasonal flu, other organizations put the number near thirty to forty thousand, with hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations in America alone each year. So which of these should we worry more about?

The Swine flu vaccine was rush produced to be ready by this years flu season. The Swine flu has proven to be as mild as the standard flu which we have been living with for decades. If you normally get a seasonal flu shot, you may chose to or not to get one this season. Yet, the evidence and articles I will allude to show the Swine flu vaccination may have more negatives than positives.

Let’s take Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Kent Holtorf’s account of the H1N1 virus and vaccine. Dr. Holtorf says that the severity of the Swine flu has proven to be much less than originally thought, and if you had to choose between getting the seasonal flu and the Swine flu, you may want to choose the Swine flu! He then goes on to conclude that the level of neurotoxins, including Mercury which is twenty-five thousand times the amount considered toxic in foods, make the vaccine too risky, outweighing any potential benefits.
Watch for yourself:


In another report, coming out of Britain, in reference to certain chemicals in the Swine Flu vaccine the article states: “It also contains a chemical called squalene, used to stimulate the immune system to respond to the vaccine. Some scientists believe squalene is linked to autoimmune illnesses including multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.” http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/122228

Even more disheartening is a report by Dr. Joe Mercola, that the Swine flu vaccine may be linked to a nerve disorder known as Guillain-Barre Syndrome, causing paralysis and inability to breath. The doctor also makes reference to the 1976 swine flu vaccine in which:
- More people died from the vaccine than from swine flu
- The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times
- The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear
- The U.S. Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected
Dr. Mercola states, “Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.”

I wanted to offer an alternative to the “Get the vaccine!” you may be hearing around work or on the TV. The point of this email is not to scare, but the exact opposite. I wanted to shed light on the idea that the Swine flu is no more severe, and actually less scary, than the regular seasonal flu. Big pharmaceutical companies stand to make billions of dollars if everyone gets this vaccine, and it would be naïve to think this money isn’t talking!

To protect yourself from the flu, and any other illness for that matter, one can take simple steps such as eating healthy (especially B vitamins), exercising, staying warm and washing your hands – and perhaps no less important: Seeing through the fear mongering of the network media! Whether you decided to get the vaccine or not, I hope this gives you something to think about. Feel free to forward this to anyone who may care to read it.

Love,
Andrew


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11301380 - 10/22/09 05:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ain't no fucking way I'm taking that shit... these people are nucking futs! They are just trying to scare people into taking it... Sounds like an experiment in media mind control to me! They can suck my hairy white ass! I'll take my chances with my own immune system... I never take any flu shots... never have and never will! I almost never get sick! I don't need that shit...


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: entheoindole]
    #11301975 - 10/22/09 07:13 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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entheoindole said:
I'll take my chances with my own immune system... I never take any flu shots... never have and never will! I almost never get sick! I don't need that shit...




Yea, other then the occasional allergies and head cold, I never have gotten sick.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11301988 - 10/22/09 07:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm gonna help spread it instead.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Newfound_wonder]
    #11303886 - 10/23/09 12:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Newfound_wonder said:
Viruses aren't alive and therefore cannot die.  Getting a vaccination does not increase the chances of a virus mutating into a stronger strain because mutations are random events; the vaccine will simply kill any H1N1 strain that hasn't mutated into a stronger form.





Wait.. viruses aren't alive but somehow the vaccine kills them? Does this make any sense at all? How do you kill that which is not alive :confused:

And how exactly does something mutate at random? That's complete bullshit. It's evolution at work dude. The material that is passed in the reproduction of the virus is variable, but what is considered adaptive is a direct result of the environment. If we produce an environment in which the current majority virus is no longer adaptive, then another variation of the material is bound to surface... a new version of the virus.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Kickle]
    #11304534 - 10/23/09 06:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I don't urge people either way, I could care less. I just don't want to get it for myself.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Indubitably]
    #11304570 - 10/23/09 06:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Not no but fuck no.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: starfirex]
    #11304577 - 10/23/09 06:40 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

No. It's an Illuminati mind control serum. Have us all their thralls by 2012, no thank-you sir.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #11304971 - 10/23/09 08:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

No. Not really afraid of it, I just never get flu shots. And I think the swine flu scare is a bit overblown.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: GoaM]
    #11305057 - 10/23/09 09:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Is this this first consensus poll ever? :smirk:


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11305080 - 10/23/09 09:16 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I wasnt gonna get it but then one of the ladies at work mentioned that a clinic that she goes to is doing a study on it and are paying $300 to each participant. I havent gone but I was getting tempted by the money. I didnt go because I hadnt done any research yet, but from what Ive read in this thread I probably wont be getting it... 
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(I totally fear mercury, and this squalene doesnt sound too nice either...)


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: eligal]
    #11305086 - 10/23/09 09:18 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

wear a rubber arm and collect $300


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #11305130 - 10/23/09 09:30 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

They don't use squalene in vaccines in the US. They use it in Europe. I'd take the $300.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: GoaM]
    #11305183 - 10/23/09 09:45 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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GoaM said:
They don't use squalene in vaccines in the US. They use it in Europe. I'd take the $300.




Is 300 dollars is really worth a potential health risk?

Not for I :thumbdown:


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: GoaM]
    #11305480 - 10/23/09 11:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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GoaM said:
They don't use squalene in vaccines in the US. They use it in Europe. I'd take the $300.





Lolz.  Instant gratification much?:biggrin:


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Darkestone]
    #11305491 - 10/23/09 11:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

lol i just thought of something

imagine all these people getting flu shots right now and vaccines.  what the hell happens when they donate blood?  it just accured to me that Ive never had that thought pass through my mind before, so im very curious about this

i imagine the donors body would act as a filter of sorts, still some of the dangers of the flu shots/vaccines would trickle through?


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #11305690 - 10/23/09 11:46 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

They sure would, thats why a lot of military personnel and their families cannot donate blood.
Also why a lot of people who have lived in certain foreign countries cannot donate blood.


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    #11305820 - 10/23/09 12:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I will get the swine flu vaccine, because I'd rather pay a few dollars to big pharma than get a contagious disease and be miserable for days.  Jesus Christ, you people are paranoid.


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    #11306081 - 10/23/09 01:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:what: 

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    #11306316 - 10/23/09 01:45 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, I will get the swine flu vaccine, because I'd rather pay a few dollars to big pharma than get a contagious disease and be miserable for days.  Jesus Christ, you people are paranoid.




they've sold you their program well :congrats:





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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Platinum]
    #11306395 - 10/23/09 01:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I should've remembered to wear my tin-foil hat.  Then I'd be safe from their mind-control rays telling me to stay healthy and not contract a contagious disease.  :tinfoil:


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Yes, I will get the swine flu vaccine, because I'd rather pay a few dollars to big pharma than get a contagious disease and be miserable for days.  Jesus Christ, you people are paranoid.




they've sold you their program well :congrats:





Got him.  :highfive:




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    #11306640 - 10/23/09 02:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, I will get the swine flu vaccine, because I'd rather pay a few dollars to big pharma than get a contagious disease and be miserable for days.  Jesus Christ, you people are paranoid.




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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Chespirito]
    #11306684 - 10/23/09 02:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

No for the win.

Why would you introduce it at all into your body? But I have a doctor friend who told me many more people would die a year without it :shrug: The normal flu shot that it, not just h1n1


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    #11306924 - 10/23/09 03:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck no.

Immune systems, anyone?


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    #11306939 - 10/23/09 03:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Fuck no.

Immune systems, anyone?



Are you aware of how vaccination is supposed to work? :what:


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    #11306970 - 10/23/09 03:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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keyword: supposed.



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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: Silversoul]
    #11307034 - 10/23/09 03:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

There's no way in hell the swine flu can compete with the virus shit I picked up a few years ago, bastards knocked me out for two months, and I'm still alive. The regular flu has never managed to knock me out more than a day or two,

In other words, screw the vaccine, I need some time off work anyway.

I'm not buying into the whole "shit, everyone needs it NOW!" ordeal the government is spewing out, but similarly, I'm also not buying all the "the vaccine is gonna kill you/is worse than the disease/whatever!" paranoia. The mass hysteria that tends to surface when it comes to these sort of things can often lead to some rather unfortunate events (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy). Not saying that's the case here though, as I haven't really bothered to research it. I won't be taking it anyway because 1) I think the whole thing is greatly exaggerated by the media and so on, and 2) I honestly don't think I need it.


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    #11307066 - 10/23/09 03:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Fuck no.

Immune systems, anyone?



Are you aware of how vaccination is supposed to work? :what:




are you aware that a flu vaccine does not offer 100% protection from the flu :imslow:

this is the primary reason I have NEVER willingly had a flu vaccine

when they create a flu vaccine, that can prevent the flu with one shot
then I would gladly take the vaccine, until then, fuck a yearly flu shot


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    #11307124 - 10/23/09 03:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Fuck no.

Immune systems, anyone?



Are you aware of how vaccination is supposed to work? :what:






If you want to take a chance at ending up like this then be my guest :super:


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    #11307175 - 10/23/09 04:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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are you aware that a flu vaccine does not offer 100% protection from the flu :imslow:



Does something have to be 100% effective in order to be worth it?  I don't think so.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #11307189 - 10/23/09 04:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I think I will, especially if its free.

It's a risk:benefit ratio that seems to be clearly in my favor.


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    #11307863 - 10/23/09 06:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hell yes I'm getting it, assuming it gets offered eventually to the general population.

Swine flu is unlikely to damage me, as I am otherwisevery healthy, but having seen how shitty my sister was for a week, and the 8 weeks it took her to properly recover, I'll have the vaccine thanks.

Vaccines by the way are possibly the greatest human invention ever. Being able to actually prevent illness? Seriously look through the history of vaccination and see how many hundreds of millions would be dead without them.


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Re: Are you getting the Swine Flu vaccine? [Re: sisyphus]
    #11307923 - 10/23/09 06:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen to many articles and utube vids about the negatives, so id never accept the "death shot"....


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    #11311508 - 10/24/09 11:54 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:syringe: :obama:  declares swine flu national emergency:syringe:


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    #11311521 - 10/24/09 11:56 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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    #11311714 - 10/24/09 12:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

so let me guess... they're gonna force ppl to get the vaccine, but force them to pay for it also?  :rofl: :handth:


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    #11311909 - 10/24/09 12:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, but the flu vaccines save thousands of lives a year.

I'm still not getting one, though.


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    #11312046 - 10/24/09 01:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, but the flu vaccines save thousands of lives a year.




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Yeah, but the flu vaccines save thousands of lives a year.




now that is pure speculation




Really? Didn't more people die before the vaccines? Why would a doctor tell me that?


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