StaleShrooms said:

So, i've been taking about 2-3 doses daily of 705mg of kava (210mg Kavalactones) and 700mg of chamomile in each dose. so like 2115mg of kava and 2100mg of chamomile daily. for a couple days.  So far its fuckin awesome.

but what I'm wondering about is there anything to be concerned with health wise? like could i continue doing this for an extended period of time?

(yes the kava I'm taking is made from only the roots)

Also, why in the FUCK are psychiatrists not telling their patients about this stuff? Seriously, this combination is almost as good as xanax.  honestly, it is ridiculous that i hadn't heard anything about this stuff from any of the various psychiatrists and psychologists i've seen over the years.

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Thats fucking an insane dose of both Im surprised your not sleeping all the time. As for supplemental medication its hard to say. These things are loosely controlled. I seriously suggest being careful with both though. Luckly they have very little negative side effects and your probably fine, but youll develop a minor addiction to the Kava at least if your using it to keep anxiety at bay.

Luckly it will only be psychological though..... my guess anyway You are right though, Kava kicks ass

Wysefool said:

Ya I told my drug counsellor I was going to start taking kava and I was kind of surprised he knew what it was, he had to ask me what it was for though. I told him I did speed before and then later on I mentioned meth, he was like ??? and it turned out he considers speed to mean MDA. So due to how misinformed he seemed at points I didn't expect him to have heard about kava at all.

Then my psychologist told me to smoke less pot, even if I'm only doing it on the weekend. Buy 1/4 instead of 1/8th she said.

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Tea said:

StaleShrooms said:

So, i've been taking about 2-3 doses daily of 705mg of kava (210mg Kavalactones) and 700mg of chamomile in each dose. so like 2115mg of kava and 2100mg of chamomile daily. for a couple days.  So far its fuckin awesome.

but what I'm wondering about is there anything to be concerned with health wise? like could i continue doing this for an extended period of time?

(yes the kava I'm taking is made from only the roots)

Also, why in the FUCK are psychiatrists not telling their patients about this stuff? Seriously, this combination is almost as good as xanax.  honestly, it is ridiculous that i hadn't heard anything about this stuff from any of the various psychiatrists and psychologists i've seen over the years.

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Thats fucking an insane dose of both Im surprised your not sleeping all the time. As for supplemental medication its hard to say. These things are loosely controlled. I seriously suggest being careful with both though. Luckly they have very little negative side effects and your probably fine, but youll develop a minor addiction to the Kava at least if your using it to keep anxiety at bay.

Luckly it will only be psychological though..... my guess anyway You are right though, Kava kicks ass

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upinthetrees said:

careful w/the kava. Most things ive read say to not use continually past 1-2 months without taking a 4+ week break in between.

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StaleShrooms said:

Wysefool said:

Ya I told my drug counsellor I was going to start taking kava and I was kind of surprised he knew what it was, he had to ask me what it was for though. I told him I did speed before and then later on I mentioned meth, he was like ??? and it turned out he considers speed to mean MDA. So due to how misinformed he seemed at points I didn't expect him to have heard about kava at all.

Then my psychologist told me to smoke less pot, even if I'm only doing it on the weekend. Buy 1/4 instead of 1/8th she said.

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hahahaha how can these people know so little about what they're supposed to be treating people for?

i just recently found out (from a more qualified doctor) that the medication my psychiatrist put me on for anxiety barely treats anxiety. wtf?? seriously its rediculous.

Tea said:

StaleShrooms said:

So, i've been taking about 2-3 doses daily of 705mg of kava (210mg Kavalactones) and 700mg of chamomile in each dose. so like 2115mg of kava and 2100mg of chamomile daily. for a couple days.  So far its fuckin awesome.

but what I'm wondering about is there anything to be concerned with health wise? like could i continue doing this for an extended period of time?

(yes the kava I'm taking is made from only the roots)

Also, why in the FUCK are psychiatrists not telling their patients about this stuff? Seriously, this combination is almost as good as xanax.  honestly, it is ridiculous that i hadn't heard anything about this stuff from any of the various psychiatrists and psychologists i've seen over the years.

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Thats fucking an insane dose of both Im surprised your not sleeping all the time. As for supplemental medication its hard to say. These things are loosely controlled. I seriously suggest being careful with both though. Luckly they have very little negative side effects and your probably fine, but youll develop a minor addiction to the Kava at least if your using it to keep anxiety at bay.

Luckly it will only be psychological though..... my guess anyway You are right though, Kava kicks ass

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yeah, i take vyvanse every day for ADHD so (unfortunately) i'm kinda wired 24/7. so i used to smoke weed to counteract this but my psychiatrist told me to try quitting weed to control my anxiety. the anxiety didnt get any better (worse even since i wasnt smoking to counteract it) but i decided i like not smoking more than smoking (just cuz i feel so much more clear headed) so Kava is my latest method of self medicating.

i think i'm okay with an addiction as long as the thing i am addicted to honestly helps me, is readily available, and pretty cheap. so a kava addiction wouldnt be that bad. plus i know i would be able to break it i mean how hard can it be to quit kava, right? i've quit smoking before (cigarettes and weed, both of which i am/was some what addicted to).

the purity thing is of concern though. i'm thinking in the future i'll just order the root and grind it up and make tea myself.

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StaleShrooms said:

upinthetrees said:

careful w/the kava. Most things ive read say to not use continually past 1-2 months without taking a 4+ week break in between.

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even if you're only taking the root (which has been proven not to cause liver damage)?

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JT said:

chamomile is though. if you have dried chamomile flowers, i'd suggest smoking it in a joint. it's probably not healthy but it's relaxing and tastes very good.

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JT said:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080222111446.htm

i have heard about kava causing liver damage, so maybe refrain from using it every day and only use it when you need to. chamomile is though. if you have dried chamomile flowers, i'd suggest smoking it in a joint. it's probably not healthy but it's relaxing and tastes very good.

*edit* people beat me to the liver damage part.

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tripcat said:

i recommend using just kava, as chamomile doesn't do a whole lot anyway

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idk, the chamomile seems to have an effect on me (smoked or just swallowed) maybe its just placebo tho. either way, it helps