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InvisibleSclorch
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Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall
    #1129459 - 12/10/02 05:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

es?cap?ism (n)
1. The tendency to escape from daily reality or routine by indulging in daydreaming, fantasy, or entertainment.
2. An inclination to retreat from unpleasant realities through diversion or fantasy; "he escaped into romantic novels"; "his alcohol problem was a form of escapism"


A bear trap for the mind.
Once snared, it is almost impossible to break free.
Some say that this menace is as powerful as heroin addiction.
It happens to the best of us.
Don't let it happen to you.


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1129477 - 12/10/02 05:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1129693 - 12/10/02 06:59 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I don't agree that people are unable to break free from escapism. I used to use marijuana as a method for escapism. I realized what I was doing and how it was making me feel when i wasn't smoking and stopped smoking all day everyday. I now moderate my use. Now I smoke on weekends. Lately I've only been smoking once every two weeks.

I don't think daydreaming in and of itself is escapism. Everybody daydreams, everyday. If you use your daydreams to ignore everything else then it could be called escapism.


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1129727 - 12/10/02 07:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Watching TV is another example.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1129907 - 12/10/02 08:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OK sclorch. I am turning off my computer right *POP*


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Murex]
    #1129938 - 12/10/02 08:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

ROTFALMAO as is the W(orld) W(ide)W(asteland).I am indulging in my dose of escapism right now :grin:Come'on Sclorch loosen up that tight lil bum a little  :blush: Escapism produces non- essential thought,which can only expose you to novelty,(a good thing).
LOL a post on escapism from one of the more prolific posters on a psychedelic mushroom forum ?
Yes kiddies beware the dreaded Amotivational Syndrome of our culture lest you end up livin' in a van down by the river :grin:
Sclorch I submit to you that only those "suited" to escapism can indulge for any significant length of time.Eventualy the exigencies of life force the return from whatever escapism one chooses, unless one chooses an escape of true addictive potential.Escapism is fear of living when it controls your life,it is  a mental "breather" for truly active minds involved in life. Don't fear it Sclorch :wink: It keeps the more interesting books on the shelves for folks like you and I.......HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :grin:WR :wink: 


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: whiterasta]
    #1130140 - 12/10/02 09:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for putting into words what i could not, whiterasta  :tongue:




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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1130790 - 12/11/02 01:10 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think Escapism is fine, as long as you are still in control of it. I think a little tv everyday or an evening toke is healthy for the mind, as a way to relax the senses.


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: whiterasta]
    #1130821 - 12/11/02 01:35 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The way you speak of escapism does not fit the above definition. If one is trying to avoid integrating reality because it requires a little more work(or alot more) then this person is neglecting himself by escaping constantly. Do you not agree?

If you are watching a Movie or reading a message board, and you are not chronically escaping from harsh unpleasant realities or daily routine then you are not practicing escapism.

I am not saying this is inherently evil. But i do think It should be minimized as much as possible.


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: David_Scape]
    #1130887 - 12/11/02 02:17 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I agree, Dave.

whiterasta: LOL a post on escapism from one of the more prolific posters on a psychedelic mushroom forum?

I think my life is active enough to allow for a little philosophy and discussion with those outside my immediate circle of friends/whatever. Furthermore, everything I post or say here is applied daily... my "do as I do" and my "do as I say" typically match up quite well. This isn't fantasy for me... it's real.

Remy: I think Escapism is fine, as long as you are still in control of it. I think a little tv everyday or an evening toke is healthy for the mind, as a way to relax the senses.

I don't think that's escapism... I'll admit that dictionary.com's definition is rather loose. However, I totally agree with the "relaxing of the senses" at the end of a day... it helps me get to sleep. I come on here and crank out some jive and BAM! I'm tired. *yawn* Speaking of which...

Oh yeah... one more thing...
Swami- quit making me laugh when I'm trying to be tired... hehehe


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1130890 - 12/11/02 02:18 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I find that repeatedly engaging in the same kind of escapism leads to boredom and for me it is self-limiting. However, I'm not normal.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1131124 - 12/11/02 06:29 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

How do you know it hasnt happened to you?? Unless you can validate all of your beliefs with 100% accuracy you may have been trapped yourself! :grin: 


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1131289 - 12/11/02 10:11 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

nice thread. thanks for reminding


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: raytrace]
    #1131735 - 12/11/02 07:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think everyone starts to fall into pits of 'escapism' unless they are constantly aware of how their environment is affecting them.
It's like walking through a huge marsh of randomly placed patches of quicksand. But it gets too monotonous(sp?) to keep watching every single spot you step on. You just want to chill and walk around where you want, but sooner or later you step in one and you dont realize you're sinkin till its up to your knees.

And some people were just thrown head first into the quicksand when they were young and haven't climbed out yet cuz they don't know what life is like on the outside or somethin... Thats all speculation, though.

I always pick up on the more subtle forms of escapismishness, like merely a topic of conversation someone refers to a little too much, like they're afraid to just stop and think and talk about whatever comes into their mind.

I guess when you look at the core of reality as just this chaotic 'zone' where you leave your worries behind completely (cuz i know most of us are brimming with them), you start to see alot of behavior as escapism. Like always saying "hi" the same way to someone in the morning. It becomes routine, and you feel like if you dare change the routine, the other person will get offended and you'll be violating some sort of system. Guilt trips. Who are we trying to be? Why are we afraid of each other, why do we need to hold onto these noisy thought processes that just get in the way of who we really want to be.... ?


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Grav]
    #1664267 - 06/26/03 01:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

*bump*


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1664341 - 06/26/03 01:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

escapism and daydreaming, isnt that the begginging of art...tools...inventions...inovations...great books...and great cartoons?
i say horay for daydreaming....
although you could say the opposite...bad books, bad inventions...but i feel the good outweighs the bad...so once again...horay for daydreaming


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Re: Escapism: One Helluva Pitfall [Re: Sclorch]
    #1664466 - 06/26/03 02:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sclorch, you talk about escapism like it's a bad thing...
We all like to get absorbed into the net for hours don't we  :wink: 


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