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Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated???
    #11288638 - 10/21/09 12:33 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone has any experience in cultivated this finesse and delicious mushroom=??


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11288738 - 10/21/09 12:45 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I'm intrigued. It should be done in a careful manner because it doesn't sound controllable. It IS a disease affecting corn.
People thought cultivating Kudzu plant was a good idea. Now it's EVERYWHERE


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11290609 - 10/21/09 10:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, it is indeed possible to cultivate corn smut.  It's a disease, after all.  Just try and keep it from coming back!

I've found a book on the subject online but it's in Spanish.  Aside from that, I've found two different methods of propagation.  The native american method involves scratching the stems of corn seedlings with a blade dipped in spores.  The other involves injecting spores into the husks of cobs before they're pollinated. (I think that was when...)

I was going to try growing this myself, but we had a month long drought and all of my corn died.


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11290664 - 10/21/09 10:32 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I googled some pictures and I must say it looks kinda nasty.

Where did you get a chance to taste these mushies?


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: Kamek]
    #11290731 - 10/21/09 10:58 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The book is in spanish??? thats great because im from mexico...


And i got to taste it over here... in mexico this mushrooms is used in traditional cuisine... and yeah... it looks nasty but tastes delicious


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11290742 - 10/21/09 11:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

seems a little iffy to cultivate a disease...
I would just grow corn and slice some of it up with a blade, and if you get some Ustilago Maydis consider it a GIFT from the earth! :yinyang2:


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11291467 - 10/21/09 01:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Ohh its a delicious disease... and worth much more $$$ than a corn cob


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11292056 - 10/21/09 03:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I would suggest thinking beyond YOUR desires

it would be really cool to infect the industrial corn here in America with corn smut though. They are ruining food as we know it


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: Paresthesia]
    #11298407 - 10/22/09 11:27 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hi, Paresthesia,

Can I download this book for free?

Could you show us the download link, please?

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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: AIRDOG]
    #11298914 - 10/22/09 01:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I've had a bit of unwanted experience with it in my corn patch.  I haven't had it in years now though.  Maybe the new strains of corn are resistant.  It doesn't spread like wildfire though.  I would try getting some spores and inoculating some corn.  How hard could it be?


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #11298966 - 10/22/09 01:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Free book?  For free?  No.  The book was published in 2007, and I think the authors deserve to be compensated for all of their hard work.  The book is entitled "El huitlacoche y su cultivo."

Also, The Google is your friend!

http://www.mycologia.org/cgi/content/full/95/6/1261


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: Paresthesia]
    #11299293 - 10/22/09 02:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

quite simple on a small scale, find some spores, make a slurry and introduce it onto corn cobs either by spraying or pouring it.  If you damage the cob slightly it helps as well.  Although there is a lot of plant resistance to smut that has been bred into modern corn.  Try getting an older open pollinated variety that will likely have lower levels of resistance.


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: Paresthesia]
    #11301109 - 10/22/09 07:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the Spanish name of the book.

There is some more information here :

http://web.aces.uiuc.edu/vista/pdf_pubs/203.PDF


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: solumvita]
    #11302290 - 10/22/09 10:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Although there is a lot of plant resistance to smut that has been bred into modern corn. 




Thank Monsanto and Justice Clarence Thomas for that...:rolleyes:


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Spawn I Want: Corcyceps Sp., Cauliflower Mushrooms, Agaricus species (Portobello), Pink Oyster, Piopinno, ...anything else you might have


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Re: Ustilago Maydis!!! can it be cultivated??? [Re: RonPaulVerm]
    #11302525 - 10/22/09 10:36 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Ah the mexican truffle I get it in cans here in So. Cal any latin market has it. I periodically get it from friends in our local mycological society when I get some older kernals I'll germinate come teliospores and let ya'll know but besides cutting the base of young corn plants with a slurry made of the spores. I also found this:

Ustilago myadis, is a well-known smut fungus that infects corn, where its immature teliospores are enclosed in sacs which replace the kernels of corn. When these sacs burst, U. myadis spores are released and cling to normal corn kernels. When these kernels are planted, teliospores are planted along with them, infecting new corn plants when they germinate

Read more: http://science.jrank.org/pages/5934/Rusts-Smuts.html#ixzz0UiqqJWVP


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