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starfirex
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LSD from the 60's and 70's
#11284340 - 10/20/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd like to know if anyone has tried any of the following acids of 1968~1975 (my acid years, now I am a mescaline man and looking to investigate the magic mushroom) Considering the age of people on the shroomery, i doubt many have tried them. But let me tell you, those were the good days, and there was some head-fucking acid around. If you have comment on the strength, scale 1~10.
I have tried the following
Purple Haze 1968 +10 (according to my sister) White Microdot 1970 +10 White Lightning 1970 +5 Orange Sunshine (ALD-52) +3 Orange Barrel 1971 +4 Clear Light 1971 +5 Windowpane 1973 +4 Mr. Natural 1973~1974 +3
That's what I know about the old acid, I know nothing about modern acid. By the way, I'm yearning for the return of the 300ug+ acid....if I know it is pure, then I will trip. Until then, its magic shrooms and magic cactus.
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Edited by starfirex (10/20/09 01:49 PM)
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: starfirex]
#11284352 - 10/20/09 01:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always thought it'd be cool to get some Bear made stuff, oh well
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: pfxtc]
#11284359 - 10/20/09 01:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't comment on the strength but I'm pretty certain that LSD in those days was a much "cleaner" or more pure overall product simply because there wasn't as much pressure on the chemists from Johnny Law - which leads to needing less to get more effects wise.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
Edited by pfxtc (10/20/09 01:46 PM)
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: pfxtc]
#11284389 - 10/20/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: I can't comment on the strength but I'm pretty certain that LSD in those days was a much "cleaner" or more pure overall product simply because there wasn't as much pressure on the chemists from Johnny Law - which leads to needing less to get more effects wise.
By 1971 we were getting some fucked up stuff.
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: starfirex]
#11284735 - 10/20/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha I would have loved to been around during that period - oh well.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: starfirex]
#11284744 - 10/20/09 02:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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There is quality acid out there currently, especially this summer. You just gotta know the right people.
As of the acid in the 60's and 70's.
I wasn't even alive during those decades.
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Cognitive_Shift said: There is quality acid out there currently, especially this summer. You just gotta know the right people.
As of the acid in the 60's and 70's.
I wasn't even alive during those decades.
Let me tell you, that white microdot was the shit....
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: pfxtc]
#11284770 - 10/20/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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sometimes I feel I was born too late...
and it's not surprising to see microdot, and even white lightning, ranked higher than Orange Sunshine. By that point people were definitely noticing that the drug was changing, becoming more amphetamine-like, or that's what they say. Like I said, born too late.
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The White Microdot was Owsley Stanley's batch after he got raided for the first time (and got all his equipment back by sueing the government, as they found no drugs) right?
I wish I would have grown up in that era. Man...
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Edited by CaptainTrips (10/20/09 02:46 PM)
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: pfxtc]
#11284789 - 10/20/09 02:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those are just some famous LSD prints. There were thousands of different kinds of acid from thousands of people laying it and buying it. The best acid now a days is 150-170mic range at the best. 125mics is considered quality acid. 300mics even 200+ mics is ridiculous. It doesn't make any financial sense, especially now a days, and people are so stupid that you cannot trust people to represent a product correctly when the get dosed with 600mics after taking three hits. "It's not acid man, it fucked me up!".
Acid is notoriously pure, and the impurities are not going to make a difference if you are worried about it them effecting you someway. The excess alkaloids in cacti and mushrooms is probably way "worse" for you than 80% LSD with some iso-lsd thrown in the mix.
"Worse" meaning there is nothing bad for you in the first place.
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and it's not surprising to see microdot, and even white lightning, ranked higher than Orange Sunshine. By that point people were definitely noticing that the drug was changing, becoming more amphetamine-like, or that's what they say. Like I said, born too late.
Man, you are right!! That orange sunshine was really speedy and had some strange effects, I have heard it was ALD-52.....I have heard that the white microdot was 450ug, and I took 2 hits one night....my most fucked up, bad trip ever....
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Edited by starfirex (10/20/09 02:51 PM)
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: starfirex]
#11284863 - 10/20/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD in its self is speedy. It acts on norepinephrine, so you are going to have your CNS stimulated.
I heard about microdots in the early 90's actually containing mescaline hcl. Which is a phenethylamine and quite speedy from my experiences, more so than LSD.
I have had blotters with the ALD-52 molecule on the back of it, i don't know if it was ALD-52 or LSD, but it was sold as LSD. And it fucking ravaged my minddddddddddddd.
(In court) owesly claimed that he was making ALD-52 rather than LSD as a way to hopefully catch a loop hole in the law. Unfortunatly back then you have to make LSD before you could get to ALD-52 and he was then charged.
The analogue act in the US makes it difficult to get some pre-cursors and other psychedelics actually synthed in the US. Europe has had especially good LSD recently, mostly being distributed in bulk out of one city. I think europes lack of analogue laws allows people to slip through loop holes easier, and thus good stuff is being synthed
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An active dose of mescaline wouldn't fit into a microdot, I'm pretty sure. There's a picture of some microdots in comparison to some other drugs and beside a ruler, and those things are tiny.
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: hoboblues]
#11284911 - 10/20/09 03:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never seen a microdot irl. they prolly are small, but i don't think packing 300mg into a tiny little ball is that tough.
I guess those things are tiny as fuck. Prolly just someone passing off an RC or LSD as mescaline to make more money.
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never seen a microdot either
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: pfxtc]
#11284934 - 10/20/09 03:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's pretty cool
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: pfxtc]
#11284964 - 10/20/09 03:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Microdots Picture
Possibly could fit it in there. It's hard to tell. There are other pictures on Erowid.
edit: nevermind. Even the 2c-b is 45mg pill weight. Standard dose of mescaline is in the hundreds.
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Cognitive_Shift said:
I was about to say, I saw microdots weighed in front of me on a mg scale and 1 weighed 9mg's. No way Mescaline is fitting into a dot.
edit- and hoboblues that second picture from erowid is some weird looking dots. I've only seen them once but from what all older heads have told me they all look like the ones in the first pic. That second one looks more like actual pills, just smaller.
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Edited by Dr.Myco87 (10/20/09 03:59 PM)
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Re: LSD from the 60's and 70's [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11286842 - 10/20/09 07:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I remember those microdots from the early 90s and they came in all kinds of different colors, but all in the shape of the first Erowid pic posted. They were definitely being marketed as mescaline. We mostly saw orange ones in the mid-to-late 1990s. In my opinion they were all LSD, and good LSD at that.
I would always argue with people about how much mescaline it actually took to get high. (But of course people believe exactly what they want to. )Basically two OO gelatin capsules full of crystals (1/3 to 1/2 of a gram of powder is hard to condense, and it definitely is NOT going to fit into the microdots).
The second picture of the microdots from Erowid instantly brought me back to shakedown at Bonnaroo in 2003. Someone handed me two of those on my way into see Widespread. Funny how just a picture can bring back floods of memories.
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