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 Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? 
#11283787 - 10/20/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been searching for anything related to hotrailing DMT, and it seems as tho nobody has tried it 
anyone have any experiance? or any thoughts on the subject?
i pulled this from a 1yr+ old post
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d4a2n0k said:
Do you think it might be easier to get a full breakthrough dose it one solid blast with this method?
I have never tried it before, but I have heard of meth heads talk about doing this, with meth of course.
I couldn't see any reason it wouldn't work with DMT. I mean D vaporizes at a pretty low temp, so it could conceivably be a really good way to rocket a breakthrough dose to your brain.
Then again it could just make you instantly cough, wasting the whole amount of product.
Any brave soul out there willing to give this a shot in the name of science?
I felt this same way about the subject before doing any reading, and if nobody has any first hand experiance, i'll take a trip to the outer edge of space for science
just need a torch and a glass tube lol 
was thinking 50mg vaporized straight to the brain thru the nasal cavity
just to see how much it will hurt 
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 Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11283794 - 10/20/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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dooooo eeeeeeeet
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Mchaggis]
#11284011 - 10/20/09 12:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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dooooo eeeeeeeet
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: feifen]
#11284040 - 10/20/09 12:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: PNW FunGuy]
#11284063 - 10/20/09 01:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Salomon]
#11284140 - 10/20/09 01:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Omg your poor nose, but you have my respect comrade, go hard cosmonaut.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: smaerd]
#11284428 - 10/20/09 01:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I, too, pray that your nose will handle it well. Good luck and thanks for taking the leap that no one else in their right mind would. 
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: switchy85]
#11287203 - 10/20/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Make a video if you do it, I gotta see this.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11287362 - 10/20/09 08:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Myco87 said:
Make a video if you do it, I gotta see this.
this.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: smurfyshmu]
#11287388 - 10/20/09 08:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck. I've heard rumor's but never saw anyone do it.
I've thought about it many times, but haven't actually tried
it. So definitely let us know how it works out.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11287444 - 10/20/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Myco87 said:
Make a video if you do it, I gotta see this.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: indica]
#11287658 - 10/20/09 08:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're going to use 50mg anyway, why not just add another 20ish and do it the regular way without fucking up your nose?
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: teeter]
#11287709 - 10/20/09 09:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do not make a video. The last thing we need is more drug use videos on the net. Next thing you know mimosa will be illegal, goodness knows what will follow that.
Totally try this, but please, no video.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Leap]
#11290630 - 10/21/09 08:12 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Leap said:
Do not make a video. The last thing we need is more drug use videos on the net. Next thing you know mimosa will be illegal, goodness knows what will follow that.
Totally try this, but please, no video.
I recant my previous statement that he should make a video. I can't believe I didn't think of that, and I'm normally the person telling people not to do stupid things like taking pictures of doing drugs. No videos!
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11290744 - 10/21/09 09:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have in the past done it with meth, if you want to do a whole lot of meth at once it was the way to do it. You could snort on hell of a monster line and then blow out one hell of a cloud of smoke after holding for a few. If it would work for dmt you could easly do alot of spice in one hit.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: redeyesmj]
#11291260 - 10/21/09 11:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have in the past done it with meth, if you want to do a whole lot of meth at once it was the way to do it. You could snort on hell of a monster line and then blow out one hell of a cloud of smoke after holding for a few. If it would work for dmt you could easily do a lot of spice in one hit.
Except the problem is that you would be working with freebase DMT which is notorious for being terrible on the sinuses, I've gotten maybe a mg. up my nostrils when taking a whiff from my container that the dmt was in and was in awe over the pain that the little amount caused, it was dust in the air that caused this, I would hate to blow a line of it. If I were to insufflate dmt it would be as DMT Fumarate, nothing else, but you cannot vape fumarate to produce effect so hotrails wouldn't be possible with the Fumarate. Just saying I give credit to whoever tries it first.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11291482 - 10/21/09 11:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for all the input guys!
1. no way i'm doing a video, for so many reasons lol
2. meth hurts so baaaaad to get up your nose..... but when you hotrail it it's smooth as shit, nothing but a rush
3. i have quite a bit of hotrail experiance and will try til i figure it out, or find it not possible
one of the main reasons i want to try this, is becuase when i smoke dmt it's so damn intimidating i usually stop hitting it before i breakthru
50-80mg in one hit will definately breakthough, or so it seems
my first blast off i used a meth pipe and put atleast 350 mg and took most of it in one hit, so i would be no stranger to this experiance
my only problem is there are no hotrail tubes for sale in this city, i looked at 2 smoke shops yesterday and they said they could order one bah
and i just want to be clear about one thing, i'm not trying to find a new way to do dmt or a "better" way, or any of that nonsense
and i don't recommend hotrailing anything, the molten dope can go up the tube and burn your nasal cavity if not done properly
this is just a hypothetical science experiment, to see how much it hurts to hotrail dmt i'll defineatly keep you guys posted, just need to find that glass tube
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11291520 - 10/21/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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^^Good deal man. I'm very curious as I've only done meth once and it wasn't a hotrail, but now that you say it hurts a lot less I would like to know if it works the same for deemsters, that would be interesting. Purely for research purposes though.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11300116 - 10/22/09 02:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dr.Myco87 said:
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redeyesmj said:
I have in the past done it with meth, if you want to do a whole lot of meth at once it was the way to do it. You could snort on hell of a monster line and then blow out one hell of a cloud of smoke after holding for a few. If it would work for dmt you could easily do a lot of spice in one hit.
Except the problem is that you would be working with freebase DMT which is notorious for being terrible on the sinuses, I've gotten maybe a mg. up my nostrils when taking a whiff from my container that the dmt was in and was in awe over the pain that the little amount caused, it was dust in the air that caused this, I would hate to blow a line of it. If I were to insufflate dmt it would be as DMT Fumarate, nothing else, but you cannot vape fumarate to produce effect so hotrails wouldn't be possible with the Fumarate. Just saying I give credit to whoever tries it first.
None of the spice makes it to your nose it is all vaped in the hot tube on the way up. you are basicaly smoking it through a straight tube in your nose. It does not hurt when doing meth but i dont know about spice i would thank i would be cool though. i would try but i dont have a tube if i see a tweeker with an extra one i may have to try it!
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: redeyesmj]
#11301181 - 10/22/09 05:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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redeyesmj said:
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Dr.Myco87 said:
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redeyesmj said:
I have in the past done it with meth, if you want to do a whole lot of meth at once it was the way to do it. You could snort on hell of a monster line and then blow out one hell of a cloud of smoke after holding for a few. If it would work for dmt you could easily do a lot of spice in one hit.
Except the problem is that you would be working with freebase DMT which is notorious for being terrible on the sinuses, I've gotten maybe a mg. up my nostrils when taking a whiff from my container that the dmt was in and was in awe over the pain that the little amount caused, it was dust in the air that caused this, I would hate to blow a line of it. If I were to insufflate dmt it would be as DMT Fumarate, nothing else, but you cannot vape fumarate to produce effect so hotrails wouldn't be possible with the Fumarate. Just saying I give credit to whoever tries it first.
None of the spice makes it to your nose it is all vaped in the hot tube on the way up. you are basicaly smoking it through a straight tube in your nose. It does not hurt when doing meth but i dont know about spice i would thank i would be cool though. i would try but i dont have a tube if i see a tweeker with an extra one i may have to try it!
How big of a tube are we talking here? Would a regular glass rose crack pipe work?
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11301933 - 10/22/09 07:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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it doesn't need to be too long if you have a rubber tube attached to it
i would recommend atleast 10-12" of tube, whether it be glass or glass then rubber
otherwise you'll burn all the hairs inside you nose, and that hurts lol
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11303176 - 10/22/09 10:07 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, what exactly are we trying to achieve doing this? A faster onset? Longer duration? Wouldn't the DMT vapor that gets caught in the mucous membrane be useless without an MAOI? The reason why you smoke freebase DMT is because of the direction that blood goes after your lungs.. straight to your brain.
I guess my only question would be, where the drug goes after it gets absorbed into the mucous membrane. Snorting most drugs like coke or heroin, it takes 5-15 minutes to feel effects, which makes me believe it doesn't rapidly flood the brain.. which is what is needed for DMT to work without an MAOI.
My prediction, is only the vapor that gets into the lungs will be useful.
Still curious, though.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11303306 - 10/22/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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you don't need a MAOI to snort freebase DMT, it's been done and reported many times.
I've blown freebase dmt vapor out of my nose, and it wasn't that bad at all, no excruciating burning pain, just icky feeling. I don't know about going in though.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: BEEP]
#11303599 - 10/22/09 11:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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but a higher dose is needed, from my understanding and reading. Though, it would depend on purity.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11303639 - 10/22/09 11:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude... I don't see why it wouldn't work... I do see why we don't know yet tho, I'm sure as fuck not doing that. Like mentioned before, I've had a few shards of dmt go up my nose unvaporized.... it's definitely not pleasant, and if you think snorting pills is bad you've got a whole new thing comin to ya. DMT felt like razors everywhere in my nose, and like... I didn't even get really any! I just itched my nose and sniffed when I had DMT on my fingers..
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: indocult]
#11303745 - 10/22/09 11:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude... I don't see why it wouldn't work... I do see why we don't know yet tho, I'm sure as fuck not doing that. Like mentioned before, I've had a few shards of dmt go up my nose unvaporized.... it's definitely not pleasant, and if you think snorting pills is bad you've got a whole new thing comin to ya. DMT felt like razors everywhere in my nose, and like... I didn't even get really any! I just itched my nose and sniffed when I had DMT on my fingers..
Odd, I find the feeling of railing pills oddly pleasant. Either I'm weird or just plain fucked up .
Maybe a lil bit of both.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11303840 - 10/23/09 12:12 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've railroaded (double lines, one in each nostril at same time) DMT Freebase before. Let me tell you. It is ungodly.
I've coughed jabanero (the hottest south american pepper) juice up my nose before, and the DMT insufflation actually hurts worse. It hurt so bad that it didn't even let me trip come. I sat there in agony holding my face as my eyes gushed water down my cheeks for 10 minutes, and my whole face/forehead went numb from the intense pain after that.
In other words..
DO IT! Haha.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11304968 - 10/23/09 08:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, what exactly are we trying to achieve doing this? A faster onset? Longer duration? Wouldn't the DMT vapor that gets caught in the mucous membrane be useless without an MAOI? The reason why you smoke freebase DMT is because of the direction that blood goes after your lungs.. straight to your brain.
I guess my only question would be, where the drug goes after it gets absorbed into the mucous membrane. Snorting most drugs like coke or heroin, it takes 5-15 minutes to feel effects, which makes me believe it doesn't rapidly flood the brain.. which is what is needed for DMT to work without an MAOI.
My prediction, is only the vapor that gets into the lungs will be useful.
Still curious, though.
lol, it's the difference between a drug in it's salt form and a drug in it's freebase form
putting a drug in your nose does NOT make it a new drug
you are talking about dmt fumarate and dmt citrate, i'm talking about nn-dmt
don't act like you know what the nose does with t3h dr00gz til you do some mo reasearch son 
here's a hint, it's just smoking dmt but inhaling thru your nose
not like doing a line of coke
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My prediction, is only the vapor that gets into the lungs will be useful.
please refer to the title of the post
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11305015 - 10/23/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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The reason why you smoke freebase DMT is because of the direction that blood goes after your lungs.. straight to your brain.
omg, i didn't even see this....
are you serious??!!?!?!
your lungs are closer to your brain than your nose?
what goes in your nose doesn't go to your lungs?
you are quite mixed up bro, dmt vapor into your nose would be at your brain faster
no need for a higher dose, quite the opposite
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: indocult]
#11305034 - 10/23/09 09:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude... I don't see why it wouldn't work... I do see why we don't know yet tho, I'm sure as fuck not doing that. Like mentioned before, I've had a few shards of dmt go up my nose unvaporized.... it's definitely not pleasant, and if you think snorting pills is bad you've got a whole new thing comin to ya. DMT felt like razors everywhere in my nose, and like... I didn't even get really any! I just itched my nose and sniffed when I had DMT on my fingers..
that's the main obstacle, i'm planning on making it as fine a powder as possible, and actualy warm it up with a decent LP torch
that should vaporize all the dmt, the only thing i'm thinking about is, how hard to inhale and who is going to grab the molten glass out of my hands as i float away
oh and one of my big concerns (not too bad lol) is over-heating the spice
i hate the harshness of overheated deemsters
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Dr.Myco87]
#11305068 - 10/23/09 09:10 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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im not completly sure, but when you insulfate something the purpose would be to bypass the liver and kidneys. usually ideal with something you can't smoke, because arent the lungs pretty much a straight shot to the brain/bloodstream also?
the whole idea of a hotrail always seemed kindof silly to me, and the only people i ever saw do it were some serious losers in a hotel room when I was 16, and they were "parachuting" coke and x. lol, i dont even know what i was doing there, besides getting a lapdance from this beautiful italian chick named Jordan. she never gave it up though, i tried all spring break. damn it was hard being 16.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Wimy]
#11305084 - 10/23/09 09:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like you hang out with some fags lol
lungs and nose go straight to the bloodstream, there are many ways to take ur dr00gz young grasshopper
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11305100 - 10/23/09 09:23 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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mm when i was 16 not really i was just hanging out with that chick. my friends are pretty cool.
lungs and nose go straight to the bloodstream, and the dmt is gonna be 99% smoke after passing through the tube.. derrrr. all your gonna do is smoke that through your nose.
i've seen plenty of people smoke cigarettes and marijuana through thier nose. yes, there are many ways to do drugs, but alot of them are just gonna end up making you look silly.
do it anyways? i dont care lol im just saying think about it
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Wimy]
#11305225 - 10/23/09 09:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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the whole idea of a hotrail always seemed kindof silly to me, and the only people i ever saw do it were some serious losers in a hotel room when I was 16, and they were "parachuting" coke and x
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mm when i was 16 not really i was just hanging out with that chick. my friends are pretty cool.
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.. derrrr. all your gonna do is smoke that through your nose.
can you read your own writing?
why are you in this thread then troll?
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Wimy]
#11305911 - 10/23/09 12:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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can you read?Quote:
weiliiinmyyard said:
im not completly sure, but when you insulfate something the purpose would be to bypass the liver and kidneys. usually ideal with something you can't smoke, because arent the lungs pretty much a straight shot to the brain/bloodstream also?
that is the imput i had on the subject. then, i started a new paragraph to say that i think the whole subject is silly and that ive only seen a couple losers do it (which seems to have offended you HAHA, when really i was just saying those guys were losers). And then, you come back and say i hang out with fags. haha. where did i say i hang out with those kids. are you a fucking retard
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Wimy]
#11306033 - 10/23/09 12:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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weiliiinmyyard said:
can you read?Quote:
weiliiinmyyard said:
im not completly sure, but when you insulfate something the purpose would be to bypass the liver and kidneys. usually ideal with something you can't smoke, because arent the lungs pretty much a straight shot to the brain/bloodstream also?
that is the imput i had on the subject. then, i started a new paragraph to say that i think the whole subject is silly and that ive only seen a couple losers do it (which seems to have offended you HAHA, when really i was just saying those guys were losers). And then, you come back and say i hang out with fags. haha. where did i say i hang out with those kids. are you a fucking retard
you are correct...it does goes faster with the lungs.....
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preschooler said:
you are correct...it does goes faster with the lungs.....
I was pretty sure. plus that cant be good for your nose at all.
and tektonic, i probably could have said everything i just said way nicer, so my bad.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Wimy]
#11306254 - 10/23/09 01:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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everyone needs to stop talking and just DO THIS ALREADY! We're never going to find out until somebody tries it.
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everyone needs to stop talking and just DO THIS ALREADY! We're never going to find out until somebody tries it.
qft
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: smaerd]
#11306338 - 10/23/09 01:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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imo it will work....but if any of the stuff stays powder....its gonna burn..who are we kidding .....its going to fuck yo nose up..        
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After my recent IV experience, you will be amazed to say the least. However, I feel like the normal method of smoking it could potentially reach my IV experience given the right amount and proper lung capacity. No way it could come on as quickly though.
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you should probily enjoy your sense of smell for a while first
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11308779 - 10/23/09 09:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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tektonic said:
sounds like you hang out with some fags lol
lungs and nose go straight to the bloodstream, there are many ways to take ur dr00gz young grasshopper
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The reason why you smoke freebase DMT is because of the direction that blood goes after your lungs.. straight to your brain.
omg, i didn't even see this....
are you serious??!!?!?!
your lungs are closer to your brain than your nose?
what goes in your nose doesn't go to your lungs?
you are quite mixed up bro, dmt vapor into your nose would be at your brain faster
no need for a higher dose, quite the opposite
Were you on some ego trip when you wrote that? Chill out dude. Most of what I said was speculative anyway.
However, you're the one that's mixed up, actually. Do you really think that because your nose is higher than your lungs, a drug will fill your brain faster? You need to do some research on the human anatomy. Then, read and interpret what I typed. You can do that, right? I realize we are talking about NN-DMT. Most solid things that go into your nose gets picked up by hair and mucous membranes, then what doesn't get picked up by that goes to your lungs. Vapor is just going to go to your lungs, is basically what I was saying.. but you completely misinterpreted it.
Also, to achieve the same level high, you'd need a higher dose just snorting it, than you would vaporizing a freebase. It might be prolonged, but not as intense.. NN-DMT. That might explain why dude didn't trip when he double railed the shit, and many other people relating to that.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11308848 - 10/23/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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hoboblues said:
Then, read and interpret what I typed.
fat chance.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11310790 - 10/24/09 09:35 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then, read and interpret what I typed.
then, pony up, get some dmt and do a hotrail
edit: that was a bit much
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Edited by tektonic (10/24/09 03:00 PM)
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11312488 - 10/24/09 02:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude, you're the one who came in here high on a pedestal..
Just because I don't root for you in your own thread, and give you my opinion, you throw a fit. Those are question marks in the thread title, correct?
I won't do a hot rail, because I don't believe there's any advantage over just putting it in your mouth. If you do it and find it to be more efficient than smoking it, then that's great.. I said I was curious. An opinion, is an opinion.
Here's a little nugget of some more opinion, the bottom of your sig completely contradicts your personality right now.
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: hoboblues]
#11312792 - 10/24/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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hoboblues said:
So, what exactly are we trying to achieve doing this? A faster onset? Longer duration? Wouldn't the DMT vapor that gets caught in the mucous membrane be useless without an MAOI? The reason why you smoke freebase DMT is because of the direction that blood goes after your lungs.. straight to your brain.
I guess my only question would be, where the drug goes after it gets absorbed into the mucous membrane. Snorting most drugs like coke or heroin, it takes 5-15 minutes to feel effects, which makes me believe it doesn't rapidly flood the brain.. which is what is needed for DMT to work without an MAOI.
My prediction, is only the vapor that gets into the lungs will be useful.
Still curious, though.
i was pretty high when i read this the first time, i probly could have responded better
thanks for your input sorry for being a dick
i will try oral inhalation aswell as insulfation, and see how they compare, if possible
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: tektonic]
#11312949 - 10/24/09 03:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've EXHALED smoke through my nose thinking that the added mucous membrance contact would contribute to the absorption. Don't know if it did or not, but it couldn't hurt.
OTOH hotrailing (does that mean taking in the smoke through the nose directly on INHALATION?) n,n,DMT directly into the nose might make a bigger difference. From the nose, it passes into the lungs on inhalation anyway, so its worth a try? Just don't get any freebase powder in your nose. Don't ask why...just DON'T!!!
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Re: Insulfating vaporized DMT?!? [Re: Nature Boy]
#11313320 - 10/24/09 04:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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doesnt dmt fuck you the fuck up anyway?
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