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Offline0acidtrance0
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ID Request/ Questions
    #11283332 - 10/20/09 12:51 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Hello. I haven't posted on this site since my failed attempt at growing, so this year I'm back as a hunter. Hunting for cyans yesterday, I found this interesting species. Any idea what it is? I'm thinking some kind of Pholiota or Cortinarius.





I've never done one of these, here goes

Cap: 1-4cm, reddish-brown, pale margin with white specks, slimy, broadly umbonate

Gills: Close to subdistant, gray/brown in colour, attached (I think)

Stem: 3-5cm, fibrious, strong, hollow, off-white and reddish-brown to orange at the base, (presumably from spores, I don't think its a bruising reaction) no annulus.

Spore print: Rust coloured

Habitat: Woodchips under a tree in a park.

That concludes the ID request portion, now for the question. There is a huge ammount of landscaped areas with woodchips like these:

They look to me like the perfect habitat for cyans, but I didn't find anything (no pins or anything). So should I move on to a new area, or should I come back and check in a few weeks? I know its still early in the season, but should I be seeing something by now if in fact they grow in the area? I live in southwest BC, btw.


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: 0acidtrance0]
    #11283349 - 10/20/09 12:54 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Leratiomyces ceres


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: cyanophilus]
    #11283387 - 10/20/09 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

You are on the right track, as Leratiomyces ceres is what we call an indicator species for Psilocybe cyanescens.  Both species prefer the same habitat, and are often found fruiting next to or nearby one another.  However, L. ceres is WAY more common than P. cyanescens, so get used to seeing a lot of them, heh.

There is no way to definitively tell if an active species is going to fruit from that particular location until it actually puts up some mushrooms.  Start looking in similar spots until you find some.  You can recheck this spot too, but you may or may not ever find what you are looking for there.

Good luck!


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: CureCat]
    #11283433 - 10/20/09 01:11 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Holy you guys are fast. Thanks CureCat for your input. I'll definitely check back there in a while. And if I don't find anything, at least I know where I can scatter some mycelium now, mwa ha ha. The city I'm in uses mostly cedar chips for lanscaping purposes. It's really frustrating. Maybe they are becoming wise to us mushroom hunters?


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: 0acidtrance0]
    #11283441 - 10/20/09 01:12 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

0acidtrance0 said:
Maybe they are becoming wise to us mushroom hunters?



:lol: not likely.


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: 0acidtrance0]
    #11283453 - 10/20/09 01:15 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

i think cedar chips r cheaper in the landscaping ind..but i wouldnt doubt that theory.


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: 0acidtrance0]
    #11283711 - 10/20/09 02:01 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Don't plant mycelium in already colonized wood chips!  The mushroom then has to compete with the current residents, which in this case, is a very aggressive species which frequently out competes other species.


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: CureCat]
    #11285039 - 10/20/09 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Oh ok, thanks I don't know if I've read that before. To be honest though, I was getting a little ahead of myself when I said that. It would be a miracle if I was able to find a print, make a syringe, and grow a whole bunch of mycelium without losing it all to contams. While it seems like a fun and noble cause to overgrow my city with cyanescens, I'm a little pessimistic my plans will ever materialize. Must gain more skills; and knowledge! Because knowledge is power:crazy2:


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Re: ID Request/ Questions [Re: 0acidtrance0]
    #11285092 - 10/20/09 05:26 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Be outside as much as you can and scout for newly landscaped areas. The wood chips you find there are what you are looking for with regards to ideal substrate to inoculate.
I just spotted a huge area right next to a tree nursery from where they sell chopped up fire wood. It's completely covered in beech shavings and chips and it's freely accessible without anyone being there most of the time. I am so going to make this one giant woodlover cultivation area next spring. :borfase:


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