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I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk?
    #11282520 - 10/20/09 09:27 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Just wondering since it seems most people with a PC see no need for PF TEK since they have one.. although it's my first time and I figure PF TEK is easy for beginners and will give me a feel for things.

I eventually want to grow in bulk and produe good amounts, but don't wanna run before I can walk.

Anyone jump straight in at the deep end and skip PF TEK altogether?


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11282527 - 10/20/09 09:31 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

I did. You can do it if you are good at projects.
PF Tek is fastest, and the most likely to work the first time, but if you think you can pull it off, do a bulk grow.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11282532 - 10/20/09 09:32 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

People do, and have great success.  On the other hand, some people fail.  Some fail with the PF Tek...

It's always a good idea to start simple, and work your way up.

I did the PF Tek when I first started.  I did it once, then left the hobby for years.

Upon my return to this awesome hobby, I just went straight to bulk teks...and it was fine.

Personally, I think bulk teks are easy enough for anyone to just jump into, so long as you pick a good one, and are very deliberate about your process.

Just be clean and calculating, and you'll be fine....IMO.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11282539 - 10/20/09 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Cheers guys.

Can you recommend a good one to start that's not too complicated but produces good yields?


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11282540 - 10/20/09 09:35 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

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Can you recommend a good one to start that's not too complicated but produces good yields?




PF Tek.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11282544 - 10/20/09 09:36 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

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Can you recommend a good one to start that's not too complicated but produces good yields?




PF Tek.




Lol. Okay, would you say there's a typical bulk tek step-up from PF Tek?


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11282560 - 10/20/09 09:42 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

No. It's up to you.
I'd say you are going about this the wrong way. You don't want to do cakes- but you don't know why.
You don't know what you want to do, or why you should do it. You just know what you don't want to do, based on something you've read.

What do you want to do? What are your goals?
That's where you need to start, from the beginning.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11282563 - 10/20/09 09:44 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Yea, PF Tek, then use your cakes as spawn.

I agree with doc, you are going about this the wrong way.

I think you need to read a lot more about the different methods, pick one, and stick with it.

I've seen people get AMAZING yields out of the PF Tek.  I've seen people get really shitty yields from a bad bulk grow.

Research and repeat until it's perfected.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: MrPinkFloyd]
    #11282572 - 10/20/09 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

I started with bulk.  It worked out, but I would have had fruits a lot sooner if I started with PF.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: MrPinkFloyd]
    #11282576 - 10/20/09 09:49 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

You could always do a couple bulk methods along side a pf project so all your eggs aren't in the same basket...I like the idea of crumbling pf cakes and spawning to bulk personally. Seems like a good method to me.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11282581 - 10/20/09 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

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No. It's up to you.
I'd say you are going about this the wrong way. You don't want to do cakes- but you don't know why.
You don't know what you want to do, or why you should do it. You just know what you don't want to do, based on something you've read.

What do you want to do? What are your goals?
That's where you need to start, from the beginning.




Basically just to continuously produce quality mushrooms in good amounts.

I feel I've read up on PF Tek enough to be able to pull it off fine, but I do want to step up from PF Tek at some point and grow in bigger amounts.

My main goal is to grow in bulk, the more mushrooms the better really, which is why I'm toying with the idea of skipping PF Tek and going for grain or something since I'm going to go grain/bulk after PF Tek anyways most likely.

Crumbling the PF Tek & spawning to bulk could be nice yeah.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11282605 - 10/20/09 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

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Crumbling the PF Tek & spawning to bulk could be ...



a lot of work compared to spawning grains.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11282731 - 10/20/09 11:01 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

I personally suck at pf tek. I didn't get good results until I went to grains. I got RR's video and followed it and I got great yields of oysters. Your big question should be which FC should I use. Good luck hope to see you succeed.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Doc_T]
    #11282745 - 10/20/09 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Why not do both at the same time? If your goal is to get a bulk amount you're most likely going to end up working only with grains > bulk sub. Do 1 batch of PF jars and do a couple grain jars. Spawn both to bulk sub and see for yourself.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: jerrylove]
    #11282790 - 10/20/09 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

I just started my first grow a couple of weeks ago, and I'm actually doing a bulk grow alongside a pf one.  So far my WBS quarts are far outpacing my pf jars.  I guess some people suck at pf.  I thought messing with grain and getting the water content right would have been a lot more of a pain than it really was.  To me it was just as easy as mixing up big bowls of stuff since I could do stuff while waiting on the WBS steps to finish... such as cruise shroomery.  Zoom!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11280231/fpart/all


I'm following Doc's WBS tek, and large_dose's coir tek and write up of the ohmatic monotub.  Links below if you haven't seen em.  Although I'm probably adding gypsum and doodie.


http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=30&Number=8231041&fpart=&PHPSESSID=

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9289857&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=#Post9289857


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Mastermind729]
    #11283314 - 10/20/09 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 days ago)

Awesome, much appreciated guys. ^ That's probably what I'll go for.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: Waxaddict]
    #11284246 - 10/20/09 03:29 PM (8 years, 4 days ago)

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Can you recommend a good one to start that's not too complicated but produces good yields?



Without a doubt sclerotia, by far the most perfect thing for beginners to try.


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Re: I have a PC, should I skip PF TEK and go straight to bulk? [Re: blackout]
    #11299500 - 10/22/09 03:15 PM (8 years, 2 days ago)

I did andstarted with monotubs.. Managed to get 4oz first try. Just study all the procedures


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