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Graft no Grow
    #11282375 - 10/20/09 08:26 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

this is a graft which i took many months ago now( probaly5-6 months) its not rotted off yet so iam hopeful it should be ok but i was expecting at least some new growth by now.
what do u guys think?? also othr pick is from the root stock of the peyote any ideas if it will spout new growth? many thanks





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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: SMUCKA]
    #11282628 - 10/20/09 10:21 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Did it have any problems when initially grafting?

I've never grafted peyote before, but in my experiences, anytime cactus growth has stalled, it's usually due to some kind of stress or damage, and the cactus has to take time to repair that damage before it is going to keep growing. Sort of like doctoring itself up, but it can be a slow process even with trichocereus, and I'd imagine with Loph. williamsii, it'll be even slower.

Does the Loph still have Turgor Pressure? Has the coloration, or pigment faded, or changed significantly?


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #11283061 - 10/20/09 12:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

the first few weeks after grafted i did notice black spot by the join which has faded away now.the peyote feel as it did when it went onthe root stock has new roots out of the bottom of the pot which i potted it up to when i did the graft.  at moment its about to enter doormant stage. i have at the momment got peyote which is flowering and fruiting under hps which iam planing to leave there over winter i cud put this lillte guy up there too.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: SMUCKA]
    #11283101 - 10/20/09 12:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Cool, you should post some pics of your peyote blooming. Are you gonna try to get it to pollinate and produce seeds?

And that black spot sounds like it may have been a little bit of rot going around during the initial graft. I could see that stalling growth. I'd say to just make sure you keep a close eye on the graft and hope that it takes care of the problem itself.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #11283417 - 10/20/09 01:07 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

this picture was taken last week show two fruits and anew flower budding. the flower is now in full show but under hps lights the pictures ive taken has came out crap. so not gona add them  pot is too heavy too move again.



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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: SMUCKA]
    #11286457 - 10/20/09 08:47 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Nice lophs! I can't advise on the graft as I haven't walked that path yet myself but the peyote rootstock looks gone in my opinion.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: karode13]
    #11286682 - 10/20/09 09:09 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

What is the stock you used on there and what environmental conditions has it been getting?  It looks as if the stock is possibly starting to pup in that picture on the highest areole (bright green growth).  Perhaps the stock has just been sluggish.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: PoC]
    #11290243 - 10/21/09 06:20 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

yeah ur right it really does look like its puping.root stock is a trich peru. its been kept in same same as rest of my cacti in conservatory rest of them have put on new growth. the black spot shown in pic is still there hasnt changed at all. so i guessing that i should remove the pup to force food to peyote. so shud i keep it under hps for winter or let it go into dormantancy?



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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: PoC]
    #11291174 - 10/21/09 12:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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SMUCKA said:
this is a graft which i took many months ago now( probaly5-6 months) its not rotted off yet so iam hopeful it should be ok but i was expecting at least some new growth by now.
what do u guys think?? also othr pick is from the root stock of the peyote any ideas if it will spout new growth? many thanks








the graft might not have taken. my grafts usually show growth after about 2-3 weeks. if the button is soft then it most def. did not take. when grafts are joined correctly the top stays firm.

that soil you got looks pretty bad but thats just me. it might pup and might not. you'll have to wait and see. it looks like you should water it at least. that might help it pup faster.

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What is the stock you used on there and what environmental conditions has it been getting?  It looks as if the stock is possibly starting to pup in that picture on the highest areole (bright green growth).  Perhaps the stock has just been sluggish.




it def. is pupping and that will stall any top growth. cut it off and wait. just wait. looks like it could have just stalled out.

hope that helps.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: ferrel_human]
    #11291550 - 10/21/09 02:00 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

button its self is as firm as the day it went in. good news i hope. will cut off that pup right now. thanks


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: SMUCKA]
    #11292827 - 10/21/09 05:15 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I really want to try some grafts here soon, this thread has inspired me:cactus:


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: SMUCKA]
    #11292886 - 10/21/09 05:25 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

The graft didn't pick.

You can still root that scion, thats what I recommend.

It seems you didn't match the vascular rings properly.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: felixhigh]
    #11292904 - 10/21/09 05:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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The graft didn't pick.

You can still root that scion, thats what I recommend.

It seems you didn't match the vascular rings properly.


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good advice. if it didnt, a follow up procedure might be in order.


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: ferrel_human]
    #11310166 - 10/24/09 06:47 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

to re cut both peices and re-graft is wot ur saying ?


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Re: Graft no Grow [Re: ferrel_human]
    #11311875 - 10/24/09 02:47 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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The graft didn't pick.
It seems you didn't match the vascular rings properly.
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I should cut and regraft :stoned:


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