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The Separation of Marriage and State
    #11281080 - 10/20/09 12:31 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Do you support the separation of marriage and state?
Do you support the separation of marriage and state?
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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: LayYouIn]
    #11282272 - 10/20/09 07:16 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

> Do you support the separation of marriage and state?

Donno... how do you define marriage?  To me, the easy solution is the state is responsible for civil unions, which are contracts between consenting adults that wish to be considered 'jointly' under the law while marriage, a religious rite, should be left up to churches.  More or less, a civil union would take the place of a marriage license.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: Seuss]
    #11282441 - 10/20/09 08:59 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> Do you support the separation of marriage and state?

Donno... how do you define marriage?  To me, the easy solution is the state is responsible for civil unions, which are contracts between consenting adults that wish to be considered 'jointly' under the law while marriage, a religious rite, should be left up to churches.  More or less, a civil union would take the place of a marriage license.




This.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: Seuss]
    #11283288 - 10/20/09 12:44 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> Do you support the separation of marriage and state?

Donno... how do you define marriage?




The social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife.

If they're mature enough to make the above decision, they should be mature enough to get out of it as well.  Rather than wasting state time by getting in and out.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: LayYouIn]
    #11283427 - 10/20/09 01:09 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I find it somewhat troubling that the government is so deeply involved exclusive romantic relationships...:strokebeard:


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: LayYouIn]
    #11305181 - 10/23/09 11:44 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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LayYouIn said:
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Seuss said:
> Do you support the separation of marriage and state?

Donno... how do you define marriage?




The social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife.

If they're mature enough to make the above decision, they should be mature enough to get out of it as well.  Rather than wasting state time by getting in and out.




The getting in part is easy.  The getting out part is usually going to involve some kind of court decision just like most contract dissolution matters do.  That is the appropriate place for government.

In NY you cannot get a divorce just because you want one.  One party must show cause.  There is one beauty though.  Constructive abandonment counts as cause.  That means I could get my divorce by refusing to fuck the bitch for a year.  That gave her grounds to file.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: Poid]
    #11305188 - 10/23/09 11:45 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Poid said:
I find it somewhat troubling that the government is so deeply involved exclusive romantic relationships...:strokebeard:



I find all government efforts at social engineering troubling, including a perverted tax code.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11305640 - 10/23/09 01:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I voted no, I think the governmental rights granted to married couples should remain in place. By separating marriage it's implied that the state rights would cease to be. Don't get me wrong though, I do agree that marriage should be between two consenting adults regardless of sex or sexuality. I just don't agree with separating it from the state, although some may see that as an intelligent way of furthering the gay rights agenda.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: Deekay]
    #11305665 - 10/23/09 01:42 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I don't give two shits about the gay rights agenda.  I oppose social engineering of any kind.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11305810 - 10/23/09 02:15 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't give two shits about the gay rights agenda.  I oppose social engineering of any kind.




This.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11312932 - 10/24/09 05:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Poid said:
I find it somewhat troubling that the government is so deeply involved exclusive romantic relationships...:strokebeard:



I find all government efforts at social engineering troubling, including a perverted tax code.


So what can I, a homeless 20 year old, and you, a 30 something year old business man do about getting rid of this bullshit? :glittershitz:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: Poid]
    #11313077 - 10/24/09 05:55 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

50.

Nothing


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11313172 - 10/24/09 06:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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you, a 30 something year old




I got some lolz out of this one. :wink:


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Re: The Separation of Marriage and State [Re: Redstorm]
    #11313362 - 10/24/09 06:44 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
50.

Nothing


Then I think I'm going to kill who ever is responsible...:uptosomething:



Quote:

Redstorm said:
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you, a 30 something year old




I got some lolz out of this one. :wink:


Why? :tongue:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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