Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Cultivation
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) with PICS!
    #11277691 -

hello everybody, this is my first grow and first post, although I've been lurking for a while, and learning from all the useful information and wonderful people here.  so thank you all! this is a stealth grow.  no I do not live with my parents, I have a roommate not too keen on 'drugs' or anything he has yet to experience.  but we get along and have no problems.  I do not have a room, only a foldout bed and a desk in the living room, but he does not bother anything I have, and I bother nothing of his.  it works out really well.  since this is a stealth grow, hopefully it helps out others who are also in my position. I purchased 3 spore syringes:  2 from spores101 (b+), 1 from ralphsters (hanoi - vietnam).  just for those about to buy online- spores101 took 3x more time to get here, although they were packaged slightly better.  but I say stick with the certified vendor- ralphsters.  as for the pictures I'll be posting, I know they aren't great, but its all I have right now.




inoculation process:
inoculation 10 1/2 pint jars with ralphsters "VC" hanoi vietnam spores.
here's a quick overview of the inoculation process if it helps:
poked four holes with small screwdriver into gold side of lid, mixed vermiculite, brf, and distilled water into large mixing bowl, stirred, filled 10 1/2 pint tapered mason jars up to bottom of lid-screw area with mixture, tamped down lightly with spoon, added small dry vermiculite layer to top, screwed ring lids on, added pieces of masking tape over holes, put layer of foil over top, readied large metal pot by dumping clean forks/spoons/knives into bottom as to keep jars off bottom of pot, also added foil balls, inserted all 10 jars into pot, added distilled water until reached just below bottom of jars, put oven on high until boiling, then turned out and let boil wet for 1.5 hrs (90min), let cool in pot for 30 minutes, while in-pot cooling readied bathroom by lysol spraying multiple times, then brought closed pot into bathroom and unloaded for another 1hr cooldown (was not enough cooling, although all jars still colonized, next time will cool overnight), cut 20 4x4in tyvek envelope pieces (free and legal from post office), lysoled again after the 1hr cooldown, had friend hold lighter, process for each jar: removed foil, removed tape, flame sterilized needle for 5 seconds, quickly pumped 1/4cc into each hole onto glass side (10cc used in all, 10 jars), unscrewed ring lid, applied tyvek pieces, screwed ring lid over tyvek, placed to the side.  loaded all 10 jars when completed into locked metal toolbox, stored under bed.

one week in:


1 1/2 weeks in:
most colonized jar:


2nd most colonized jar:


2 1/2 weeks in:

most colonized jar:


2nd most colonized jar:


least colonized jar:


FC toolbox on the outside:

Edited by ted (11/05/09 04:17 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: ted]
    #11277707 -

peat is usually used more in casing than substrate , at least thats always been my practice ... oyster shell definately is a casing material ... coir and verm should work out ok ... add some spent coffee grounds to it though for nitrogen boost ... jars looking good ,, gl to you !

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: cyantific]
    #11277738 -

lol ok nm you talking about pure casing the jars .... if i were you id spawn them to a bit larger bulk sub .. it takes a bit longer but is well worth it ... seems like a waste to just crumple and case ... id rather just fruit them in a shotgun fc then that ... not too much diff in yield ... as for casing with coir ... coir has more or less been  identified as a better sub material than a casing material ... myc eats it up rapidly and for casing you want non nutritious materials .. it would work still but its almost like half spawning and half casing ..it would boost your yeild as a casing but may hurt your pin set

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: cyantific]
    #11278008 -

Nice advice, getting the idea cyantific knows his shit. Good Luck


--------------------
Cervantes' sclerotia thread    Citric's self-healing lid tek  Agar's Grain LC  Breaking Up Spawn Jars

World's Ugliest Cat?

If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: myceleus_rex]
    #11278430 -

myceleus_rex said:
Nice advice, getting the idea cyantific knows his shit. Good Luck


lol just saw this ... yeah i get lucky sometimes , just so happens i got more grows down than posts at the moment lol trying to get 50 so i can rate ppl ... that said , I'm helping as much as possible ! guess its better than just saying a bunch of shit to build posts and muck other ppls grows up eh lol ... thanks for supporting the post ... cheers ..

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: cyantific]
    #11284666 -

thanks for your help cyantific!  the way I plan on casing the cumbled cakes is really basic, and next time I'll work with pasteurized poo or straw like you said.  what also is keeping me from what you're saying is the discretion I'm attepmting to use, so just microwave-sterilization of coir and peat moss is the easiest.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: ted]
    #11284689 -

why crumble cakes? you will get less that way.  and for my coir i put in a bucket and pour boiling water over to pasteurize and get the water in.


--------------------
IF A CAT AND DOG CAN GET ALONG WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE?
If the sky is falling, don't look up!  :abduction:

Feel Family Founder. :pm: me if you are tired of hearing, "Use the search function".

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: ted]
    #11291399 -

update!

Day 20 10/21

Most jars are almost fully white on the surface.  Two of them are a little weak, so they may be left out.  I've read that one should case from 3 days to a week after they're white, to make sure they're fully colonized.  Does this sound right?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: feelfunny]
    #11291412 -

feelfunny said:
why crumble cakes? you will get less that way.  and for my coir i put in a bucket and pour boiling water over to pasteurize and get the water in.


feelfunny are you talking about instead of crumbling, to use a bulk sub like cyantific said?  I'm still new so its hard to get everything thats being said.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: ted]
    #11291458 -

yes. crumbling without spawning you will lose allot of nutrients recolonizing which is less for it to fruit.


--------------------
IF A CAT AND DOG CAN GET ALONG WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE?
If the sky is falling, don't look up!  :abduction:

Feel Family Founder. :pm: me if you are tired of hearing, "Use the search function".

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: feelfunny]
    #11426712 -

update!



I ended up dunking 7 BRF cakes for 22 hours and crumbling them into a sterilized little tray.  I cased them with 3/4" 50/50 peat moss and vermiculite, and added water to make it just a little moist.  It incubated for about 4 days, until I saw some pretty white fluff underneath the surface at two places, patched those a little bit, then added 1" of perlite and mixed in the right amount of water, and began the 12/12 light cycle with sticky LEDs.  I've also been fanning and misting about 4 times a day.  I don't have an rh gauge so I don't know what the humidity is, but there is condensation on the walls at all times.  The temperature ranges between 66-72F.  I put the tray in the FC about 12 days ago, and all there is to show is a little growth--just 4-5 white spots on the surface.  I also threw in an extra BRF cake pf style on the side 4 days ago.

Does this sound right?  It seems like the casing is taking forever, which is fine with me, but I don't want it to be stalled or anything.  I see some peoples casings fully colonized within a week and pins everywhere, but also have read that it takes some a month to pin.  Feedback would be much appreciated.

I also understand that crumbling was probably not the right way to go... so thanks everyone for their input about it.  I'm going to work hard on a bulk method next time!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: ted]
    #11486331 -

:frown:

After about 1 1/2 weeks in the FC, a big fat pin showed up right in the middle of the tray, along with lots of white myc poking up around.

Then... the white growth... a huge white growth starting spreading..abnormally... and I didnt know if it was myc or trich.  The next day some of it was green.  So I put it outside, and two days later I checked and it was very green and had spread.  So in the dumpster it went.

Altogether... failure.  I did get a big pretty pin though!  Next I'll be doing a pf tek grow.  I think one of the big mistakes from this grow was not letting the cakes colonize completely and then giving them another week, along with the fact that a humid casing was being stored in a moldy house under my bed.

Thanks to anybody who gave input.  I'll be back sometime once I get my method down!

ted

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) [Re: ted]
    #11493537 -

that sucks ... you have a point about the cake maybe not being colonized enough ... you can get away with slightly under colonized cakes if you fruit them as is because the inside is protected by the myc ... it will just colonize in the fc and take longer ... but when you case a crumbled cake it had better be 100 % because trich will nail its azz !

sorry about the grow ... learn from this and apply it to the next and the next ... there's always a first and its never the last when it comes to mycology and contamination's ...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: First Grow (Hanoi - Vietnam) with PICS! [Re: ted]
    #17141965 -

i'm gonna start growing the same variety...can you post temperatures plz,and quantity i think you said 10cc per jar of did you mean 10cc on 10 jars 1cc=1jar

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Cultivation
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Guys, what the F**K does crumble and case mean? PECID 1,996 4 09/15/01 11:17 PM
by Zen Peddler
* outdoor growing novicegrower185 442 1 08/17/02 11:11 AM
by mickey_rourke
* Which for first grow; Amazonian, Hanoi, Plant Mystery, Huautla?
( 1 2 all )		 MushNoobGuy 2,449 20 11/21/16 12:44 PM
by Spore Ninja
* hanoi vietnam?? noobiegrower 645 0 04/10/13 07:35 PM
by noobiegrower
* How well will this light work in my toolbox? LayYouIn 780 8 03/31/07 11:09 AM
by fromthemoon
* casing & crumbling mxpxnofx09 2,009 17 11/20/02 01:07 AM
by On_the_Down-Low
* Grow kits from Netherlands, Legal or not?
( 1 2 3 all )		 Apexx 12,323 46 10/28/02 12:35 PM
by SixTango
* Crumble Or Slice PlowKing 1,060 3 06/23/01 10:36 AM
by Chonger

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, the_chosen_one, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
8,953 topic views. 7 members, 567 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 16 queries.