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Quidding Salvia
    #11264351 - 10/17/09 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

9 in the morning and yeah I'm too lazy to use the search function, but with a half gram of 10x Salvia extract, would I be able to quid with it or would my best bet just be to smoke it?

And I don't care if the difference is a big difference in intensity because I've smoked salvia before but never quidded. I wanna try everything once to say I experienced all


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: Angel_Above]
    #11264377 - 10/17/09 10:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have no idea, but I would definitely encourage you to quid.  I've grown unfond of smoking extracts (salvia, DMT), oral dosing is much better IMO, longer high, not as intense, more insight, traditional use.


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: Smitington]
    #11264420 - 10/17/09 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

if you are lazy
don't quid
you will just waste your expensive extract anyway
for not lazy, empty several teabags, put your 1/2 to 1 gram 10x inside, sew it up well, and chew that with a swig of rum or vodka.
or just get plain leaf - that wastes less.

smoking way (50X) more effective.


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #11264431 - 10/17/09 10:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I figured the plain leaf would be better suited for this.

I'm getting an ounce soon hopefully.

And I've looked at quidding teks and they say to chew and keep the saliva in my mouth as long as possible and eventually spit it out (why not swallow it though?) but can you go into detail on "chew that with a swig of rum or vodka?"


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: Angel_Above]
    #11264524 - 10/17/09 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

spit it out if you are nervous
- if you swallow it, it makes the trip last longer.

you don't need to keep it in the mouth at all.
the mouth is actually a terrible absorption surface for salvinorin.
(not enough surface area, and not very active.)
the chemical is waxy and solid at body temperature
it absorbs as quickly and effectively as parafin wax.
i.e. not well.
you could just as well make a milk shake and drink the stuff.
intestines are better at absorbing stuff, and we do not break it down much digestively.
what we know of the mazatec lore is full of errors omissions and misconceptions about salvia.


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #11264670 - 10/17/09 11:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I don't need to chew them at all? I just imagine me mixing it in some water and drinking it like a shot if that's the case.

Also, how long does the effects of quidding usually last?


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: Angel_Above]
    #11264743 - 10/17/09 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So I don't need to chew them at all? I just imagine me mixing it in some water and drinking it like a shot if that's the case.




No, barely any Salvinorin A is abosorbed through the lining of your stomach. You need to keep it in your mouth for 10-15 mins for it absorb.

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Also, how long does the effects of quidding usually last?




About 30 minutes for me, but it's always more mild than smoked sally.


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Re: Quidding Salvia [Re: drift]
    #11264832 - 10/17/09 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

well as for chewing,
that is most important to get the salvinorin off the leaves, even if you do swallow.

or you can pulverize the leaves in a vita-mixer or excellent juicer.

you really don't need to keep it in your mouth, but if you take whole leaves, then the idea is to chew them a lot to get the salvinorin off, otherwise the salvinorin will pass through your system like a plug of wax.
chewing does loosen it up, and partly it smashes it against your cheeks and gums.

salvinorin is not very easy to absorb at body temperature except in really smashed up bits. or as an inhaled aerosol of droplets (as when smoking)

if you had 50MG (50 to 300 doses smoked) pure salvinorin and swallowed it as a pill, that pill would probably emerge whole, and no effect would seem to happen.
it is like wax.


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