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Offlinemxpxnofx09
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inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start?
    #1126298 - 12/09/02 07:34 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

tommorows the day.. inoculation time.. but unfortunatly i dont have a pressure cooker... what are the best methods to use so i dont get all contams.. ive read about the microwave but i think im going to be using rice so anyone got any ideas??


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1126350 - 12/09/02 07:49 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1126399 - 12/09/02 07:57 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

ummm..
1. get a big cooking pot
2. put the jars in with tinfoil over top(so water doesn't get in the holes in the lids)
3. pour some water in until the water level is half way up the jar
4. boil for about an hour.. an hour and a half. something like that
5. let the jars cool

also I read that you should put something on the bottom on the pot such as a rag so you don't heat up the jars and dry out the vermiculite inside.

Goodluck with it!


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Ghosty]
    #1126428 - 12/09/02 08:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

thx ghosty.. awesome answer.. just a quick question do i put the tinfoil ontop of or underneath the lid? and do i close it tightly? i read that can be bad?


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1126434 - 12/09/02 08:05 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

A normal cooking pot works just as well as a pressure cooker, except you have to boil them for longer.

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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1126464 - 12/09/02 08:18 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

BEFORE you do anything, please read the very informative instructions from the PF-Tek: http://www.fanaticus.com/sub-prep.htm


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1126507 - 12/09/02 08:28 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

mxpxnofx09:

I am just relaying what I have read in other guides. But you would put the tinfoil OVER TOP the jar lid.. as you have holes in your lid and you won't be taking the lid off again until you decide to birth your cakes. So on top it is.. maybe use a rubber band to hold the tinfoil tight against the jar. You just don't want water drops getting in those holes.

As well try reading as many guides as you can.. it will help! Goodluck!


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Ghosty]
    #1126531 - 12/09/02 08:33 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

thx, ill tell ya how it goes tommorow.. after about a week or two ill post a pic. if you wanna check out my terrarrium its in one of my old pics (shitty picture but its the best i can do right now) thanks for all the help.


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1127043 - 12/09/02 10:28 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

also sth very important is where you will let the jars cool. the best is to let them cool in the pot!!!
good luck

(i had 0 contams with the boiling method!)

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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: TinMan]
    #1127062 - 12/09/02 10:34 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

A normal cooking pot works just as well as a pressure cooker, except you have to boil them for longer. 


Nope, a pressure cooker can attain a higher temp, and in sterilization, much like life, the higher the better.  :smirk:


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1127072 - 12/09/02 10:36 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

As the original poster stated, he is going to be using rice.
A normal pot and boiling the jars to sterilise will be fine.
When you start working with grains you`ll need to get a PC.

Edited by DERRAYLD (12/09/02 10:36 PM)

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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1127075 - 12/09/02 10:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I know that it will be fine, but its not AS good as a pressure cooker. Thats all I'm saying. I've sterilize with just a pot and lid and had success, but I wouldn't say its as good as the PC.


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1127091 - 12/09/02 10:41 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Deffinatelly not as good skikid, I`ll agree there.
But is an effective means of sterilisation.

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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1127114 - 12/09/02 10:47 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

You and your pressure cookers :smile: 


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1127148 - 12/09/02 10:54 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I love 'em cause they're like my women, fast and easy.  :grin:


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Re: inoc. without a PC? am i fucked before i start? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1127158 - 12/09/02 10:58 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I love mine because it`s the only friggen way to sterilise grain.
If my wife was able to do the sterilising with some new amasing method not requiring a pot or a PC, then I`d love her more :wink:
hehehehe

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