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What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help!
    #11261520 - 10/16/09 05:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11261558 - 10/16/09 05:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'm thinking more along the lines of A. amerimuscaria Definitely wait for TI though. EDIT: the bulb looks wrong to me, so might be something else, like A. frostiana


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11261566 - 10/16/09 05:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

death caps don't have warts on top.


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: thetonebone72]
    #11261790 - 10/16/09 06:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

What's TI?

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11261803 - 10/16/09 06:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

My guess is Amanita crenulata.

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11261909 - 10/16/09 06:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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septicsystem said:
What's TI?


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: greatfulhunters]
    #11262022 - 10/16/09 07:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

TI is trusted identifier. they have the bar saying so under their avatar. and panther caps are shades of brown, not yellow. i am not sure of the species though

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: ShroomHunting]
    #11262077 - 10/16/09 07:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

im almost positve alan got it right.:wink:

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: greatfulhunters]
    #11262423 - 10/16/09 08:37 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

how can you tell the big difference between A amerimuscaria and crenulata? Pic 4 the base looks exactly like muscaria.


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #11262464 - 10/16/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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how can you tell the big difference between A amerimuscaria and crenulata? Pic 4 the base looks exactly like muscaria.




Usually with A. amerimuscaria, there are three or so shaggy, sheathing concentric rings. Sometimes they get washed off, but in this case it is most likely not so. Also, note on the first pic the squamous looking bulb, (instead of A. amerimuscaria's much shaggier stipe bulb) as well as the slightly less bulbous base.


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: Ieponumos]
    #11268242 - 10/17/09 09:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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TheShroomanizer said:
how can you tell the big difference between A amerimuscaria and crenulata? Pic 4 the base looks exactly like muscaria.




Usually with A. amerimuscaria, there are three or so shaggy, sheathing concentric rings. Sometimes they get washed off, but in this case it is most likely not so. Also, note on the first pic the squamous looking bulb, (instead of A. amerimuscaria's much shaggier stipe bulb) as well as the slightly less bulbous base.



no doubt

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: greatfulhunters]
    #11271473 - 10/18/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Does this species contain muscimol?

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11271494 - 10/18/09 01:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If so could you boil this thrice and eat with some salt? haha

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11271500 - 10/18/09 01:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
My guess is Amanita crenulata.



I don't know really. As far as I can tell, they may be a. amerimuscaria. Then again, I'm not familiar with either species and know them only from documentation.

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: koraks]
    #11271511 - 10/18/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's A. amerimuscaria

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: You can all etibem]
    #11271521 - 10/18/09 01:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

How do you figure?

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11271593 - 10/18/09 02:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Where did you collect, region, that is. Can have difference.. My guess though,
Amanita M.


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: 69I8U]
    #11271633 - 10/18/09 02:24 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'm in Eastern Canada (Nova Scotia) I collected it growing on a lawn under a tree (can't remember what kind of tree).

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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: septicsystem]
    #11272183 - 10/18/09 04:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, same.


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Re: What kind of Amanita is this? I think a panther or a death cap... please help! [Re: 69I8U]
    #11272415 - 10/18/09 04:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's  Amanita Muscaria var. Persicina.

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