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Invisiblecarbonhoots
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USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism
    #1126091 - 12/09/02 08:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

NEWS LINK

Hmmm, to my knowledge, the USA is the only country to ever have invaded Canada. No matter, now they are defending us. Since we spend what's left of our public money on universal public medical insurance, subsidized university, non-toll highways etc, and NOT the military, we're military free loaders, or something like that...

Never mind that the only threats Canada EVER recieves is BECAUSE of our endorsment of America.

Never mind that the American military's involvment ALL OVER THE FUCKING WORLD, to preserve her empire, is a big reason for a lot of this terrorist hatred towards it.

Well, that's Canadian ranting...

I think American's believe in the value of war more than Canadians (or probably any other nation for that matter).

There is value in compromise too. That doesn't seem to be in the overall American psyche. It's just more gas guzzling SUV's and more army to secure the oil.


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1126140 - 12/09/02 08:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

American empire?

America isn't a colonial power, unless you count Alaska or Hawaii :smile:


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: Gunboat]
    #1126288 - 12/09/02 09:32 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

America=Evil :frown: 


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1126316 - 12/09/02 09:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I think these news stories are complete bs. We're talking about two Canadians. TWO! I didn't know two people were enough to judge an entire country by.


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: Gunboat]
    #1126366 - 12/09/02 09:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

And the native american indians... doh ! :smile:


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: trendal]
    #1126906 - 12/10/02 12:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I should of tittled this post..."An American is fed up with defending Canadian socialism". I know it would of been too many letters but the point is it was the statement of one american...

In Canada, we're not scared of USA you know. We're not. We know that you have it better here then if you'd taken over completely. Cuz if USA took over, USA would have to govern us too, deal with the problems...as it is, USA just pulls in here, takes what it wants, and leaves. Just as if you were at home.

We can do that, cuz there truely are more natural resources here than we can possibly use. Half of North America...thirty million people... So what the fuck...what else should we do?

It's kind of humiliating in one way, but it's the only sensible option in the other. Peace with the biggest warlords in history. A good achievement. Maybe only achievable because of a unique position on the world stage..."God keep our land glorious and free..."

Anyway, this is another interesting article from a great journalist about Canada's lack of a military...Prime Minister says no large defence budget increase


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1126970 - 12/10/02 12:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

So, Canada is superior because we profit from the
American dead sand-nigger industry with minimal
investment on our part as well as having universal
healthcare?


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: bivalve]
    #1127969 - 12/10/02 07:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I'm gonna respond 'no' to that...

No, I think Canada is superior because it has a more civilized and generally peaceful creed in it's unspoken social philosophy.

I also think Canada has fallen to a lesser degree than the USA to that age-old socially parasitic phenomenon. Monied classes oppressing the country for their own gain. Private insurance is a classic example of this scam. Public insurance always costs less and benifits more people. You live in SK. It's got public auto insurance. You know how much more it costs to insure a car in Alberta? It's way more. Like 5 times more. Why? Cuz they got private insurance. Private corporations exist for one purpose... to make money for the shareholders.

Saskatchewan might still be waiting for private industry to build them a telephone system if the government hadn't created the state owned Sasktel. Now one of the best phone companies in north-america...it remains state owned and is superior for it.

Blah, blah, blah...


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1127975 - 12/10/02 07:25 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

wow...sounds just like a bunch of whining if ya ask me.


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1130809 - 12/11/02 01:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

man, I'm a bit too stoned to comment right now, But I always have little debates like this in History class, or with my Parents.  My dad works for a Union, so he has lots of opinions on stuff like this.  Carbon, I pretty much agree with you though.  America isn't really bad, like it is better businesses and such.  But I could go on about the bad things the U.S government has done, etc.  Of course their is no point in doing that but, I think too many people take offense a comment about their country, because the government in power has done something wrong.  Like, lets say someone was talking about an American Company owning a bunch of sweatshops in poor countries, with bad work conditions.  Some one might condemn the U.S for that.  An American may get pissed off about that statement.  I can understand patriotism etc, but I don't think people should get upset because someone made a comment about an action they didn't do.  Know what I mean?  I guess I'm rambling  :grin:  btw, I'm Canadian 


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1130822 - 12/11/02 01:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

What an ideal position Canada is in! Spending money on itself rather than its military. I'd do the same I were in charge of Canada.


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: Gunboat]
    #1130838 - 12/11/02 01:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

America isn't a colonial power, unless you count Alaska or Hawaii

and Puerto Rico, Guam, Virgin Islands, Samoa...

Not to mention all of our bitches throughout the world with puppet Governments that do what we tell them.  :laugh: 


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Re: USA fed up with defending Canadian socialism [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1130847 - 12/11/02 01:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I love all that quasi-socialism stuff, girl. That's some
good stuff, yo. It'll be pretty good while it lasts.

But, what I meant was, Canada profits from the
same evil stuff America does. We let fewer of our
poor people freeze to death and the government
owns some phone companies and it's cheaper
to insure our cars but we're still slazzin' da
jimmies from bombing innocent sand-niggers
and not that many people seem to mind.

Osama bin Laden wants to kill us too, dawg.
Sure, we're nice guys, but maybe if we spent
less time being smug about being slightly more
left-wing than another country and more time
campaigning for some real justice and shit. . .
I think that'd be good.

Etc.


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