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Offlinelaserpig
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relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate!
    #11259504 - 10/16/09 01:55 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Alright so I don't exactly have a hypothesis here but check this out (first the necessary background, then my point):

For basically the past month, I've been regularly smoking weed. Before that, I took a two week break, and I noticed a distinct difference between "how my head felt" (IE self assessment of brain function) towards the end of the break and how I felt after several weeks of regular pot smoking. (I'm talking about how I felt when "sober" -- hopefully that was implicit but anyway now it's explicit just to be sure.) 

It's my conclusion that during a bout of near-daily pot smoking (let's say it was 4 days a week minimum), my head never really returns to "full clarity." I think this makes perfect sense given that THC's half-life in the body is something like 19 hours.


So: last weekend, I declared another break from marijuana. Through the course of this week, I believe I have noticed my head becoming progressively "clearer."

And here's the main feature:
Last night I got drunk, and today I woke up "feeling funny."
It took me until about 20 minutes ago to figure out what was up -- I am feeling slightly high.

THC (and other cannabinoids) store(s) in fat cells.
THC is highly ethanol-soluble.

See where I'm going with this?
I think it may be possible that last night's alcohol use (which probably bumped my BAC up around .10-.12 -- just my best guess) "washed" some THC out of fat-cell storage and into my bloodstream.

What do you guys think?
Plausible?
Potentially useful information?
Think it might have implications for marijuana detox?

I'd love to see a discussion around this.


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: laserpig]
    #11259893 - 10/16/09 03:05 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Breaks from MJ make my head clearer but my soul cluttered.

"Last night I got drunk, and today I woke up "feeling funny.""

I'd definitely call a doctor, sounds like somethings up. Feeling funny the morning after a night of drinking :shocked:.


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Why does God give us anything?

Look at it this way: if you want to make a baby cry, first you give it a lollipop. Then you take it away. If you never give it a lollipop to begin with, it would have nothin' to cry about. That's like God, who gives us life and love and help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears, Stan, that give God his great power.


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: IdeLOLogies]
    #11267308 - 10/17/09 08:41 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I find smoking weed helps me with hangover a TON (I mean smoking the night of, not during the morning).  If I drink TOO much (18+ drinks or so), I still get hungover, but otherwise, weed does a pretty good job helping me out.

As to your idea, not sure on that, but the fact you weren't smoking might have been why you felt funny haha.


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11267456 - 10/17/09 09:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

OP, would you be willing to buy a breathalizer and actually test out your hypothesis and report back?

NVMD, you'd also need a cannabis drug test kit.


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: Neuron]
    #11267490 - 10/17/09 09:12 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I seriously want to put together a study to assess this

something like 50 control, 50 experimental
everybody abstains from weed for a few weeks
then everybody is a stoner for two weeks
then the experimentals drink heavily for a week while the controls abstain -- drug test daily, and see what happens


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: laserpig]
    #11267511 - 10/17/09 09:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

laserpig said:
I seriously want to put together a study to assess this

something like 50 control, 50 experimental
everybody abstains from weed for a few weeks
then everybody is a stoner for two weeks
then the experimentals drink heavily for a week while the controls abstain -- drug test daily, and see what happens




The study should run around $2,500(drugs, drug-testing kits). Would you use an F test, or a T test?


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: Neuron]
    #11267514 - 10/17/09 09:16 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i do not know the difference


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: laserpig]
    #11267552 - 10/17/09 09:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You'd need to use statistics to determine whether the experiment produced 'statistically significant' results that are greater than chance alone.

If you'd want your experiment to hold any clout.


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: laserpig]
    #11267566 - 10/17/09 09:25 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I can never just drink to excess now, I ALWAYS need bud to get me REALLY wasted.

I can either say... drink a carton (24) of beers, get pretty drunk and messed up... wake up shit the next day.

OR

Drink say a 6 pack of beers while vaping some weed, get the equivalent high (IMO it's better)... then wake up the next day and only deal with the 6 beers hangover instead of 24.

Cheaper, more fun and less hangover ftw.


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: Chubba]
    #11268062 - 10/17/09 11:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i'd say your hypothesis is wrong:

if i'm understanding this right, you're saying that alcohol is somehow extracting thc out of your fat cells, but unless there's thc in your stomach how would the alcohol reach your fat cells?


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Re: relationship between BAC and THC -- come on in and speculate! [Re: laserpig]
    #11268430 - 10/18/09 12:12 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I think you were just feeling slow from being hung over


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