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Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

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why so slow, were you at RR
    #11257020 - 10/16/09 01:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hi everyone i did some brf jars using the rice bran stuff that RR posted here.http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10129086#10129086 i also did some with the organic brf i had been getting at the health food store.to finish it off before moving on to the rice bran. now its been 13 days since knocking them up with some brf slurry.any ways all the jars that i used the rice bran are growing much slower and more cottony looking than the ones using the regular brf.does anyone know whats going on,why,or has this happened to anyone else.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11257031 - 10/16/09 01:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

how sterile was the slurry process?


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Re: why so slow [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11257047 - 10/16/09 01:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it was good. thats not it. cause all of the jars were the same slurry. only the jars with the rice bran are growing slow.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11257089 - 10/16/09 01:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

on BRF jars, the mycelium does look different because it is growing on a 2d plane against the glass.  with grains it grows around the grans more.

so it will look different..

as far as time, I cant help from experience using that type of grain.


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Re: why so slow [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11257104 - 10/16/09 01:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:cool:an intuitive observation and true


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Re: why so slow [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11257127 - 10/16/09 01:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

there not grains there brf using stabalized rice bran. it comes ground up already.you use it as a brf alternative.here is RRs post on it.
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I've been running tests on this for the last few months.  It works as well or better than brown rice flour.  Brans are normally more nutritious than flours because they also contain the outer husk.  The best part is the price.  This forty pound bag cost $19 at the local feed store.  Compare that to around $3/lb for brf from Bobs Red Mill.  In fact, this was cheaper than buying bulk brown rice, and it comes already ground and ready to use.

I'm sure there's other brands available depending on where in the world you are, but check your local animal feed stores for rice bran.
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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11257139 - 10/16/09 01:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i have quart jars of wbs colonizing so i know how grain looks when too.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11257147 - 10/16/09 01:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, I assumed bran were whole grains.

did the moisture content seem the same as the brf jars when you made them?

13 days does seem long for a slurry, how is the gas exchange on the jars?


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Re: why so slow [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11257205 - 10/16/09 01:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

moisture was what i thought also cause i was using 3.1.1. verm brf water it had been working great for months with the regular brf.so i tried some last friday with 2.1.1. and there going just as slow.the regular brf are about 80% colonized and the rice bran are only around 50.done at the same time.there are 4 holes in the top with no tape. so ge should be fine.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11257246 - 10/16/09 01:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

do you have a dry verm layer?


does the bran seem like it may be more compact than the BRF? that could cause delays also.


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    #11257281 - 10/16/09 02:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

dry verm yes.more compact not really. i wish i had a fucking camera to post pics.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11259541 - 10/16/09 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

bump. im still wondreing if anyone knows whats going on, or if this has happened to anyone else.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11261571 - 10/16/09 07:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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bump. im still wondreing if anyone knows whats going on, or if this has happened to anyone else.


well no one how about rr did you have this problem.


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Re: why so slow [Re: whyblameus]
    #11261621 - 10/16/09 07:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A couple of things will lead to faster colonization and 'prettier' mycelium. One is less moisture.  The mycelium works harder and travels faster in search of moisture.  That's why it's advantageous to make substrates a tad dry.  You can always dunk before first flush to hydrate it then.  The other thing that will lead to faster colonization is a less-nutritious substrate.  Thus, a superior product like rice bran will colonize slower than brown rice flour, but makes up for it at fruiting time.
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    #11261690 - 10/16/09 08:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

thank RR i new you would know.:biggrin:


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Re: why so slow [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11261824 - 10/16/09 08:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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A couple of things will lead to faster colonization and 'prettier' mycelium. One is less moisture.  The mycelium works harder and travels faster in search of moisture.  That's why it's advantageous to make substrates a tad dry.  You can always dunk before first flush to hydrate it then.  The other thing that will lead to faster colonization is a less-nutritious substrate.  Thus, a superior product like rice bran will colonize slower than brown rice flour, but makes up for it at fruiting time.
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