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a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know
    #11255719 - 10/15/09 09:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I ordered 250 grams of mimosa hostilis root bark powder that came in two separate bags of roughly 125g a piece

the lye that I got is a two pound 'jar' of sorts (or whatever you want to call the plastic equivalency thereof) and it's food grade quality

the canning JAR itself, however, which I have to work with - is only 3/4 quart though
(whereas the recipe I'm getting ready to follow asks for a full quart jar instead)





so my question is this:

if I just eyeball out a roughly comparable dose of lye to the amount of MHRB in one of the bags / mix them thusly with, say, 400ml of water (as opposed to the 600 asked for in the recipe) and then squeeze in what I can of the napth with what room I have left to work with...it'll still do the same thing, right?

I mean - it'll just be a smaller amount ata higher concentration. ya  :what:


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11255743 - 10/15/09 09:49 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

just go to walmart and buy full quart jars they are not expensive


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11255760 - 10/15/09 09:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

but I don't get paid until tomorrow...an I wanna get started on it tonight  :crying:


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11255790 - 10/15/09 09:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

so wait tilll tommroow do it right


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Dutch-Master2890]
    #11255803 - 10/15/09 09:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Dutch-Master2890 said:
so wait tilll tommroow do it right




ya man its worth the wait to do it the right way dont worry its not going anywhere have patience



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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11255822 - 10/15/09 10:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Just look around your place for a different container. I recommend using a plastic jug (hdpe.)


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11255844 - 10/15/09 10:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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ya man its worth the wait to do it the right way don't worry its not going anywhere have patience



wouldn't having higher concentrations in a smaller container make for quicker/more efficient yields though  :confused:


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11255853 - 10/15/09 10:09 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

and wouldn't using a plastic container, I dunno, break down the plastic or some shit and get toxins in yer mix  :what:


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11255861 - 10/15/09 10:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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wouldn't having higher concentrations in a smaller container make for quicker/more efficient yields though  :confused:




No you run the risk of having the solution be too thick. More water the better.


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11255871 - 10/15/09 10:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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and wouldn't using a plastic container, I dunno, melt the plastic and get toxins an shit in yer mix  :what:




Absolutely not. It's actually safer than glass as lye can etch the glass and break. That rarely happens but I always use hdpe plastic just to be safe.


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: muistrue]
    #11255886 - 10/15/09 10:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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wouldn't having higher concentrations in a smaller container make for quicker/more efficient yields though  :confused:




No you run the risk of having the solution be too thick. More water the better.



damnit!  :mad2:



fuck it...I guess I still got a few other items to pick up for this shit as it is anyway  :tongue:


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11256156 - 10/15/09 10:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

ooh...before I go though - a coupla other quick questions:

would it be better to prepare the initial water/lye/MHRB solution in, say, the garage with the door left open...or outside all together??? I mean - do I have to worry about this shit stinking up the house an shit, or just simply not inhaling the fumes? and I suppose on that same note - do I also havta worry about not getting bacteria an shit within the jar itself (like you have to with shrooms) or is that not gonna be able to grow in this crap regardless?

also:

considering that I kinda *have to* eyeball this shit anyway (cause I'm not going all out and buying up a chemistry kit of some sort just so I have the proper measuring utensils / and scales an crap just to make sure the weights are all correct / and all that other malarkey) would it be better to have a hair more mimosa then lye, or vise versa? and is it preferable to have a bit more lighter fluid then the recommended dose, or just a tad less? and could more be added as you go to compensate for the lost amount, or is that even necessary?

plus:

how important is a lid on the jar when you freeze it? and how important is it that have an actual 'according to hoyal' JAR to begin with? I mean - could you just use a coffee cup instead? or would a little plastic tupperware container work just as well? (standard issue rubbermaid shit...not some fancy schmansy high-endurance / HPQL...whatever...crap)



and would I be better to combining what I have into one larger container (say...an empty gallon milk jug, for example) or split it up into several smaller ones? (like an entire dozen pint sized jars)







there's just so many potential variables with this one...and so many corners I'd like to cut if I'm able to  :crying:


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Re: a few quick DMT / STB tek questions for anyone that might know [Re: Muppet]
    #11256237 - 10/15/09 11:02 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The base water/ mhrb solution won't create problematic fumes. It's the non polar solvent that creates fumes. If you're freeze precipitating that won't be an issue. And no you don't have to keep everything sterile like with shrooms.

You can use more solvent but if you do evaporate some before you put in the freezer. I actually recommend you do that anyway. Evap until it starts to cloud up then freeze for best results.

I recommend a lid in the freezer so you don't contaminate your food. And a gallon milk jug will work for the extraction as they are usually always hdpe. Just look at the bottom of the jug it should have a triangle with a #2 hdpe.


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