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Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT
    #11224720 - 10/11/09 03:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So I have yet to embark on the journey that is DMT, and I was wondering what the effects of smoking vs eating it were. I always figured it's the same drug, different delivery method, but from what I've read, it seems to be a very different experience depending on how it enters your body. Am I wrong on this? Is Ayahuasca typically prepared with additional ingredients (such as an MAOI?) Please enlighten me, oh wise shroomery!


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: SeniorCoolo]
    #11224749 - 10/11/09 03:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Traditional aya is prepared with b. caapi vine wich is an maio. Ive only done aya once when I was with my sweet heart, I felt the purest love in the world and it was very long lasting and controlable. Unlike dmt my mind scatters alll over the universe. I my aya was particularly strong becaus eI ate some adittional dmt crystals with it so I was at the border line of going some were else. But aya showed me that i loved this girl


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: mudnpool]
    #11224834 - 10/11/09 04:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca lasts longer so you can get your bearings and navigate the space.  Smoked DMT, by the time you figure out what's going on, you're heading back.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: monkeyheaven]
    #11239662 - 10/13/09 03:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ayahuasca is way better even taking rue and mimosa isnt the same as ayahuasca and pharhuasca isnt the same either


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: thedudenj]
    #11244192 - 10/14/09 06:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
ayahuasca is way better even taking rue and mimosa isnt the same as ayahuasca and pharhuasca isnt the same either




Does pharhuasca make folks sick?  As much as some people cherish 'la purga,' it's not something that others would mind doing without.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: monkeyheaven]
    #11244600 - 10/14/09 10:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have a few times made a very clean MHRB extraction consumed with rue with no major purgative effects until a big blowout at the end (which always seemed to restoke my buzz as I sat on the can). It can be one heavy buzz but the duration allows for exploration and assimilation, and in several cases I felt as if I built up and then stopped time and merged with the pure light of love.

Also, at sufficient doses the come up can start in "the room" which is very much like a smoked DMT experience, but then it progresses beyond that point. Also, any wanna-be shaman that insists that this method of use is somehow "less" or spiritually invalid is full of shit, though of course effects do vary with the components involved.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: monkeyheaven]
    #11246647 - 10/14/09 05:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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thedudenj said:
ayahuasca is way better even taking rue and mimosa isnt the same as ayahuasca and pharhuasca isnt the same either




Does pharhuasca make folks sick?  As much as some people cherish 'la purga,' it's not something that others would mind doing without.





it can the drugs alone can make you feel ill but its not the same as ayahuasca cause some things are exracted out.


any who as for as mimosa and rue goes its still not the same as actually using ayahuasca. i started out on mimosa,chilponga and rue. then when i had my first brew with caapi i realized the difference even more so when i used virdis for the first time it drastically changes everything even if you use it with rue and  mimosa


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Edited by thedudenj (10/14/09 05:05 PM)


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: thedudenj]
    #11246723 - 10/14/09 05:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Does caapi have psychedelic properties on it's own or is it just an maoi? Erowid labels it a psychedelic, but all the experience reports are a mix of it with a DMT containing plant.


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Re: Smoked DMT vs Ayahuasca/oral DMT [Re: sammy1143]
    #11248471 - 10/14/09 09:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

yeah tribes would use just caapi many times before adding other stuff


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