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how to determine 100% colonization for substrate
    #11247433 - 10/14/09 07:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

2 monotubs exactly alike, wbs to coir/coffee/verm at around 1:2 ratio

this is at 3 days in

Top Monotub



Bottom Monotub




and this is at about 8 days in

Top Monotub


Bottom Monotub


my question is, how can i tell when they are going to be at 100% for fruiting? experienced growers can probably just tell, though i was just throwing this up for open opinion because this is my first grow. thanks, :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: Internetvirus]
    #11247455 - 10/14/09 07:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

look at the edging of the first pic... it's pretty clear which one is further along... I would say when all you see is "white" your good to go. Thats what I've always done.


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: Nuzzle]
    #11247519 - 10/14/09 07:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

umm when you see the sides of your tub colonized....and so after...give it a few days when its reached it peak colonization to make sure its fully done...:bobmarley:


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: botanisthype]
    #11247540 - 10/14/09 07:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

when you think it is colonized wait 2-3 days at least that is what i do, cant hurt


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: feelfunny]
    #11247618 - 10/14/09 07:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Out of curiousity how did you mix/layer that tub?  was there a frosting layer on there?

On your tubs, you're good to start giving it occasional fresh air by opening the lid but keep the tape over the holes for another 4 days at least.  There's an unavoidable period of time between full colonization and pinning and it's better for the tape to stay on for that.  Personally I put the polyfill in when I see knots.  It works well.


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11247687 - 10/14/09 07:53 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

that looks like a frosting layer!:bobmarley:


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: botanisthype]
    #11247789 - 10/14/09 08:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

some say you shouldnt do that invites contams


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: feelfunny]
    #11247836 - 10/14/09 08:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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some say you shouldnt do that invites contams




i did 2 frosting and 2 cased.....and the 2 that has frosting looks great...while the case ones are taking longer to finish colonizing...one of them is still on its 14th day of colonizing....sigh...but there all looking good!!!..im gonna go straight with frosting from now on..:bobmarley:


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: botanisthype]
    #11247861 - 10/14/09 08:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i frost my self too, but 13shrooms and i debated it for 2 pages and he and others still stick with grains in the open like that is asking for contams. maybe we are just lucky


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: feelfunny]
    #11247864 - 10/14/09 08:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i mixed in close to 5 quarts, and threw a final quart on top to frost. here's one of the tub frostings i took a picture of



figure i oughta just give it 3-5 more days till fruiting. tops look healthy, just can't really see anywhere else with the black garbage bag hiding the bottom and side views of the tubs


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: botanisthype]
    #11247883 - 10/14/09 08:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The one you frosted probably only appears to be more colonized because you threw all of that spawn on top.

In my opinion, I think it is better to layer. Also, when layering the top two layers, one of spawn and the other substrate, I double them up in thickness. In this manner, I know the entire sub is colonized because the thickest layer is done.

With frosting, you have no way of knowing if the inside is done or not. Just something for you to think about.


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11247892 - 10/14/09 08:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

thats why i wate 3-6 days after i think it is colonized


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: feelfunny]
    #11247900 - 10/14/09 08:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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thats why i wate 3-6 days after i think it is colonized




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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11247906 - 10/14/09 08:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

how long dose yours usually take? never layered always though mixing it would be faster so that's what i did


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11247939 - 10/14/09 08:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

from the continuous research i did, i remember layering and was going to do so

ended up forgetting about when the time came for it, after finding everything and following combinations of teks.

nice to know for future grows though!  :bongload:


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11247955 - 10/14/09 08:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It depends. Usually a week-week and a half. Usually no consolidation time, but I am considering trying it?

Now, time to  :bigblunt:


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11247965 - 10/14/09 08:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I also use a generous spawn:sub ratio. Anywhere from 1:2 to 1:3, probably closer to a third than a half.


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Re: how to determine 100% colonization for substrate [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11248300 - 10/14/09 09:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I also use a generous spawn:sub ratio. Anywhere from 1:2 to 1:3, probably closer to a third than a half.




same here...except i layer instead of mixing.......:bobmarley:


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