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Noob Checklist
    #11245211 - 10/14/09 10:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ok So i currently have a bag of Rye grain and a few BRF cakes incubating in various cupboards and places. And also have an expansion vile that should give me 10ml of B+ for further grows.

This is the list of things i plan on getting or already have for my current grow and for future grows.

Brown Rice Flour - Organic
Vermiculite - medium
Perlite - medium
Clear Plastic box for shotgun and 1 for glove box
ISOPROPYL Rubbing Alcohol - for cleaning and needles
Caning Jars
Desiccants / Silica for drying mushrooms - need small box  - may use Fan to dry out then add to desiccant
Thermometer

Thats pretty much it and will be following a tutorial i found on here (well link) to making BRF cakes without the use of PC or Microwave. Steam them over the cooker.

Let me know if im on the right lines.

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11245262 - 10/14/09 11:05 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You also want disposable gloves, dust masks, and bleach (for cleaning your GB--mix 10% to warm water).

You can steam sterilize for 90 minutes and do well with BRF jars.  For grain (popcorn, rye, WBS, etc.), you can use fractional sterilization--or buy a PC, an investment that you will never regret.

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: MLBjammer]
    #11245300 - 10/14/09 11:15 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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You also want disposable gloves, dust masks, and bleach (for cleaning your GB--mix 10% to warm water).

You can steam sterilize for 90 minutes and do well with BRF jars.  For grain (popcorn, rye, WBS, etc.), you can use fractional sterilization--or buy a PC, an investment that you will never regret.




Don't get dust masks, get surgical masks.

Don't do "fractional sterilization." Get a PC or stick with cakes if you don't have, don't want, or can't afford a PC.

Use 70% iso alcohol to clean your glovebox, etc.

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: freespeech]
    #11245317 - 10/14/09 11:18 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The entire first time procedure for making cakes can be found here: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek

There's a lot of contradictory information out there, but these videos provide an easy and proven method for the beginner. Watch and follow along with all four videos and you'll have success. :thumbup::yesnod::thumbup:

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: MLBjammer]
    #11245645 - 10/14/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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The entire first time procedure for making cakes can be found here: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek





Thats the tech i watched and plan to follow, thats where i got the glove box idea from. Everything seems pretty simple when they show you so I will give it a go.


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Don't get dust masks, get surgical masks.

Don't do "fractional sterilization." Get a PC or stick with cakes if you don't have, don't want, or can't afford a PC.

Use 70% iso alcohol to clean your glovebox, etc.




Will be getting the Iso that rubbing alcohol and is 70%.

So would i just use this instead of bleach?
I see that many flame sterilize their needles can i burn iso alcohol to create same effect save buying a special burner and additional fuel as may not use all this stuff much!!


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You also want disposable gloves, dust masks, and bleach (for cleaning your GB--mix 10% to warm water).

You can steam sterilize for 90 minutes and do well with BRF jars.  For grain (popcorn, rye, WBS, etc.), you can use fractional sterilization--or buy a PC, an investment that you will never regret.




Oh yes gloves i have, will look into masks but thought that that was the whole idea of the glovebox!? Just an added precaution.

I will be sticking to BRF cakes as i know rye and grains are very hard to sterilize without a PC.

Thanks for the feedback so looks as if im on right lines and few questions above in this post and i should be set to go.

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11245743 - 10/14/09 12:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Um, a hygrometer might come in handy.  Just saying...:shrug:

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    #11245800 - 10/14/09 12:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Been thinking about that will have a look. one thing im hesitant to do is splash out and then have no success and have wasted my money.

Thanks, cant rep yet sorry.

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11245849 - 10/14/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If you stick with it, success is practically guaranteed. I mean, if a idiot like me can do it...


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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11245853 - 10/14/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

none of it a waste once you buy it all trying again is cost free

Edited by Shea25 (10/14/09 12:53 PM)

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #11245862 - 10/14/09 12:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have to reccomend a PC.  It is invaluable for grains, and it helps tons with PF cakes as well.


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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: kingboomer]
    #11245869 - 10/14/09 12:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

AND, if you stop trying to grow, you can make up some jars of pickled garlic. MMmmmmmm, gooooood.


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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #11245881 - 10/14/09 12:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

LOL, I use mine for a stockpot when not PCing :wink:


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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: kingboomer]
    #11245991 - 10/14/09 01:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well i made a few quick purchases of a hygrometer/therm digital all in one for the fruiting chamber.

A bottle of Iso alcohol to disinfectant everything.

Have been looking at basic pressure cookers in the UK and they are around $35, this is basic one that look just like a pot with special lid but no thermometer or anything like that. Would this be ok? I suppose with a PC i am sort of guaranteed success as i will be starting with a germ free growing medium.!

Asked a Q above: Can i use Iso Alcohol to sterilize needle then burn a capfull to flame the needle??

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11245997 - 10/14/09 01:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

you can just use a lighter and heat the needle till its red hot

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: Shea25]
    #11246107 - 10/14/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ok i thought there was an issue with residue of the butane gas.

I will have alcohol so will use that as well as lighter then just to be on the safe side.

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11246143 - 10/14/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yea the residue just makes the needle black does not affect the growth or contam rate. all you need is a cotton wick and some Iso I would use 99% for a lamp just get a glass bottle or something fill it with the iso stick the wick in it and bam alcohol lamp

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11246244 - 10/14/09 02:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok i thought there was an issue with residue of the butane gas.

I will have alcohol so will use that as well as lighter then just to be on the safe side.





My preferred methods of flame sterilizing, favorite to least favorite:

Propane torch
> Gets the needle red hot almost instantly; no residue


Alcohol lamp
> Slow, with some residue


Butane lighter
> Slow, awkward, much residue

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: freespeech]
    #11247037 - 10/14/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

well ill probably just try and make an alcohol lamp or something, at least i will have the Iso Alcohol.


Have been looking at pressure cookers and I will not be able to get one as finding one with a pressure gauge like ones many use on here is impossible to find one in the UK for cheap. All i have found is what looks like a saucepan with a secure lid!?

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11247052 - 10/14/09 04:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

the rocker type PC's are perfectily fine to use its a luxury to have a gauge

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Re: Noob Checklist [Re: newbie_shroomer]
    #11247292 - 10/14/09 04:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have actually just found the rocker help area. So May invest as I can get one pretty cheaply and will help in keeping everything clean.

So i have read the pressure cooker thread and where would I find the times for sterilizing jars?

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