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anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american?
    #11245090 - 10/14/09 12:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I do not, but I am extremely curious about the content of the following article:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressingly-easy

Anyway, even if nobody wants to buy it (which I suspect is the case), we can still discuss it, right?

Whaddaya all think? Legit theory?
I think so.

When everything is pre-prepared and easy, nothing is satisfying.
Exercise prevents depression because it's work, and it provides a sense of accomplishment. I could totally buy the idea that our NERFed-out lives have robbed us of what used to be a certain minimum level of accomplishment per day. Without that in our lives: increased rates of depression.

Eh?


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245103 - 10/14/09 12:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

For sure.  I feel depressed about my days if I don't (a)exercise, (b)eat healthy, and (c) do a little bit of schoolwork.  Cuz for teh mos part, I just get high ---- all day.  I don't have a job other than being a TA for some  undergraduate econ courses -- so it's just get high, study, eat, work out.

If I don't do the last 3 on that list, i've been officially worthless for that day - and I feel shitty as a result.


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245136 - 10/14/09 12:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

wholeheartedly agree!
i been saying it to my friends for awhile now, technology = shortcuts.
now yes i do use technology frequently, but it is so integrated into "human life" nowadays, it's a must. there's gotta be a way out...


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: herschburger]
    #11245151 - 10/14/09 12:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I think there may be two sides to this: what used to provide a sense of accomplishment (ie, getting food and keeping shelter and staying safe etc) is now taken care of by default -- that saps us of a sense of accomplishment. The flip-side may be that, though we do have opportunities for some degree of accomplishment in our lives (for example, success in school), these new opportunities are so abstract that they don't provide nearly as much pleasure as "fuck yes I totally merc'd that deer."


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245171 - 10/14/09 12:46 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah - I can see that.  You're no longer "being a man to provide FOOD for you and your family".  Now-a-days we're like "I was able to fix the toilet today" or "I worked out AND saw little Timmy's football game" ----- we're not really working for SURVIVAL anymore, just for something to do and a little money


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: memes]
    #11245233 - 10/14/09 01:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It got to the point for me where exercise provided me absolutely no satisfaction any more so I stopped doing it. I used to swim an average of 25-30 miles per week and it all felt like excruciatingly tedious work. As I got increasingly  more and more depressed I exercised less and less until I was lucky to walk to the mailbox a few times a week.

So I don't know, maybe I'm different. But as depression crept more and more into my life, the prospect of exercising became more and more impossible.


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #11245249 - 10/14/09 01:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

IMO there's no way that exercise is a "cure" for depression.
If your life is empty, running a marathon is just going to leave you with an empty life + sore legs.


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245432 - 10/14/09 01:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I think there may be a correlation here, but there is no real scientific evidence that supports his theory. I think it is a good idea, and may end up holding water but without a study linking a "harder life" (which would be difficult to define objectively) with "better mental health" (less instances of depression? This is not the only way to measure mental health) it is impossible to say for sure. At the very least it would be premature to assume that there is any causal effect here without more information.


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There was a king that always felt too high and then he fell too low
And so he called all the wise men to the hall
And begged them for a gift to end the rises and the falls
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It was simple and was plainly unbefitting of a king
Engraved in black, it had no front or back
But there were words around the band that said
Just know: This Too Shall Pass



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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245547 - 10/14/09 01:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

laserpig said:
IMO there's no way that exercise is a "cure" for depression.
If your life is empty, running a marathon is just going to leave you with an empty life + sore legs.




as much as I love you man, you're absolutely wrong on this. There are many studies out there that show exercise increase serotonin levels and can 'cure' depression in some instances- if one exercises everyday(30 minutes on the eliptical for example)


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: Neuron]
    #11245556 - 10/14/09 02:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: Neuron]
    #11245634 - 10/14/09 02:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I never said it doesn't help, I said it doesn't cure.
Exercise gets you high as fuck and it's 100% healthy, it provides a sense of accomplishment and ... yeah, exercise is good.
It helps you feel better. Key word, though: helps.


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245644 - 10/14/09 02:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Not only does it help you feel better, but it helps you LOOK better, which  makes you more confident, which enables you to be more successful in your endeavors, which will lead to a higher quality of life, which perpetuates the upward trend in quality of life.

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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245648 - 10/14/09 02:18 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It can 'cure' for some people, it did for me and my girl(separate times in our lives)--therefore not a placebo effect dependent on eachother, but perhaps after X number of times independently.


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: Neuron]
    #11245680 - 10/14/09 02:23 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Again, I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm just saying there's no perfect cure-all.


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245696 - 10/14/09 02:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

man i think as long we rely on "accomplishments" to be happy its always gna take something else. learn to be happy now is what we need to do. but you know, if we think of tasks like pain were not appreciating the task enough


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Re: anyone got 8 bux to drop on an e-copy of scientific american? [Re: laserpig]
    #11245703 - 10/14/09 02:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

nothing is a cure-all.


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