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RonPaulVerm
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: DieCommie]
#11179724 - 10/04/09 10:48 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: There is the most plausible story that is well supported and believed by the 'sheep' and 'masses' and there is the unplausable story that is not well supported but gives the feeling of being different then the 'sheep' and the 'masses'.
If there is a cover up I think the government/military has done it's job because there is all sorts of confusion. You don't need a completely made up story just a little bit of disinfo here and some over there. Missile hitting the Pentagon could have been made up by disinfo shills, the eyewitness testimonies, the people chanting for the tapes to be released... we'll never know.
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11212141 - 10/08/09 11:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nope because every thing is documented it is just the fog of cointell pro and counter intel that make people not see the truth that is right in front of their faces.
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If any one has any brains left they can get tons of info on who was involved in the 9/11 inside job hit false flag attack.
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RonPaulVerm
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: TheHealCure]
#11212269 - 10/09/09 12:03 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm 20 minutes in but this is actually a good 9/11 movie I haven't seen! A lot of mainstream and independent interviews.
WHo was that well=suited man with body guards WeAreChange was confronting at 11:00 min or so? Talking about how the FBI fucked up
You're so sure it's all well documented? How do you know? A hunch? Did someone say in a movie? HOW do you know?
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11214247 - 10/09/09 09:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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first get as much info as you can then make your own desicion.
Its seems people have been so dumbed down or confounded and confused they no longer trust their brains.
Use your brain. Take in all evidence and then use your brain.
People no longer use their brain they now depend on TV giving them their daily issues.
People can just think hard.
Then the oblivious 9/11 inside job sticks out like a sore thumb.
Now the question is what are we going to do about these murderers who rule over us and give us fake terroirsm.
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: TheHealCure]
#11214305 - 10/09/09 10:12 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: TheHealCure]
#11214355 - 10/09/09 10:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheHealCure said: first get as much info as you can then make your own desicion.
shouldnt they bee seeking correct info before making decisions, it seems that making them based on bad intel leads to unjust wars and other poor choices
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RonPaulVerm
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: TheHealCure]
#11214710 - 10/09/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheHealCure said: first get as much info as you can then make your own desicion.
Its seems people have been so dumbed down or confounded and confused they no longer trust their brains.
Use your brain. Take in all evidence and then use your brain.
People no longer use their brain they now depend on TV giving them their daily issues.
People can just think hard.
Then the oblivious 9/11 inside job sticks out like a sore thumb.
Now the question is what are we going to do about these murderers who rule over us and give us fake terroirsm.
I've been gathering info and investigating 9/11 for 4 years now. And nothing is OBVIOUS. If you have a definite conclusion about 9/11 you must be missing some info. For every person that saw a missile go into the pentagon there is another who saw a plane.
Some thing are in our faces plain and simple like the creation of the neo-conservative aganda through the Project for New American Century (PNAC) document. #
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11242479 - 10/13/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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bull shit
we know who planted the demo in the towers.
we got photos of the jackels paid to destory the wtc building .
Not cave men.
But people living illegaly in the wtc buildign donig "construction" on the core colloms.
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11242663 - 10/13/09 09:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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RonPaulVerm said:
I've been gathering info and investigating 9/11 for 4 years now. And nothing is OBVIOUS.
I've been gathering info and investigating 9/11 for 7 years now, and its obvious that educated Muslims committed the act.
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: TheHealCure]
#11242683 - 10/13/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheHealCure said: we know who planted the demo in the towers.
we got photos of the jackels paid to destory the wtc building .
Not cave men.
But people living illegaly in the wtc buildign donig "construction" on the core colloms.
one of the guys in the photo's looks a great deal like me
so some just has a bunch of random pics and assembled a video and a radio commentary... yay
what's it prove, squatter lived there? I saw no evidence of half of what the guy was claiming, no construction, no debris from construction, etc...
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: TheHealCure]
#11242806 - 10/13/09 09:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Started watching ZERO: An investigation into 9/11 it's a european documentary and it's all science and proven fact... If you choose to watch it, tell me what you think #
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11242885 - 10/13/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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RonPaulVerm said: Started watching ZERO: An investigation into 9/11 it's a european documentary and it's all science and proven fact...
11 minutes in and I can see a lot of misdirection, a lot of bullshit, smoke/flames for instance, petroleum products burn with orange flames and give off black smoke
why are we dealing with something that was filmed in italian and dubbed in english, was the fireman incapable of speaking english, if so, why was working a NYC fire department
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11243059 - 10/13/09 10:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about instead of just posting a bunch of 2 hour long videos that keep rehashing the same tired speculations and falsehoods, make an actual assertion, here in this thread.
Address some specific piece of evidence that you believe supports your case.
Present that specific piece of evidence here, whatever it is.
Of course, if you don't have a case, this will be more difficult. In that case I suggest you make a case. Then show the evidence.
Do a bullet point style post and present five well-defined, distinct pieces of evidence to support your claim. That is my challenge to the conspiracy theorists.
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: Viveka]
#11243179 - 10/13/09 10:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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well I know I post videos because the videos themselves bring about good points... it's good to hear from people like Prisoner #1 who offer information they have about some topics. Viveka, did you watch New American Century? the first movie i posted a few posts back.
Prisoner#1-It's just personal but I don't think bullshit is the word I would use to describe this video, but no use arguing that. I think using the madrid fire is a little misleading if you ask me.  Have you gotten to the part about NIST? it's in the late 10:00's. I don't know how one could refute it. One could argue they are terrible and don't know what they're talking about, but these people can't fuck up that badly in my opinion. I've read the NIST report on building 7 and it stinks. 
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DieCommie said: I've been gathering info and investigating 9/11 for 7 years now, and its obvious that educated Muslims committed the act.
How in the world is that obvious? Are you certain it was ONLY educated muslims? Did they have any help?
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Re: New September 11th First Responders Testimony. Recorded 8/11/09 [Re: RonPaulVerm]
#11243529 - 10/14/09 12:08 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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RonPaulVerm said: Have you gotten to the part about NIST? it's in the late 10:00's. I don't know how one could refute it.
I'm sure not everything can be refuted as even in the conspiracies there is fact, I dont like having someone listed as "nobel prize winnar!" trying to convince me he has a clue, I have some research to do on a few of the folks as well as viewing the whole video
as for the guys moving from the top down to the floors where the fire was supposed to be and then down and out, it's not unlikely since most commercial buildings have firewalls but it's also likely that it's more crap and the guys could have claimed that they walked through those floors
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Are you certain it was ONLY educated muslims? Did they have any help?
the FBI didnt investigate the reports on the attack, they had 3 mos prior knowledge, what I've read and reviewd, that's as far as government complicity goes
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