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Offlineimachameleon
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Psilocybes?
    #11243121 - 10/14/09 12:32 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

I apologize for the crappy photographs and also the lack of decent specimens to look at. I didn't actually PICK any of these mushrooms, they were all raked up and covered in mulch/dirt, not to mention busted up pretty good. These are the most intact of the bunch. The patch seems to be recovering however (lots of new pins) and when some of those mature I'll post some better pictures up here.


Habitat: Mulched soil with wood debris in it.

Gills: Dark. See fotos.

Stem: White. Straight to flexuose.

Cap: Olive brown, changing to a straw or white color when dry. Sticky gelatinous pellicle visible by tearing apart fresh caps.

Spore print color: Looked purple when I first took them. Wiping up lighter ones with a q-tip the spores look black, kind of purplish at the edges. Now I'm not so sure. The spore print had been in the freezer for a few days when I took this picture. Is that how I should store them? I have some more caps printing on white paper now, but they too were victims of THE RAKE, and were sitting in wood chips for a while before I found them so I'm not sure that I'll actually get anything off them. Might have to wait for the pins to mature.

Bruising: Bright blue, dark blue, blackish eventually. On stems and caps (may not be visible on the caps in these photos, but there was definitely blueing on others, especially around the outside.)

Location: Picked in Western Oregon.

Sorry for the pic quality. It was the best I could do. Try and zoom in on them.



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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: imachameleon]
    #11243256 - 10/14/09 01:02 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

Baddass!!! - a lil dirt now n then never hurts anyone:wink:
Do go get some freshies n post back pics!!:thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: imachameleon]
    #11243333 - 10/14/09 01:18 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

appear to be a psilocybe


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: wowitch17]
    #11243349 - 10/14/09 01:21 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

I don't know of any Psilocybes that stain blue with a brown spore print that grow in Oregon :confused:. Only one I know of with a brown print is Psilocybe subviscida and they don't grow anywheres in PNW.


Edited by Bretdaniel (10/14/09 01:24 AM)


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #11243362 - 10/14/09 01:24 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

It could be Psilocybe cyanescens.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11243391 - 10/14/09 01:32 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

I have seen some Psilocybe cyanescens (or at least what I thought were at the time) that look that haggard.

They were growing under Scotch Broom, in tall grass and wood debris. Rodent nests.

If they weren't Cyans then they were something closely related.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11243396 - 10/14/09 01:33 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

They don't even really look like Cyans, they look like a poop covered blueberry Popsicle. :crazy:


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #11243417 - 10/14/09 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

they are so dirty and tore-up that they look more like Baeos than cyans, but the caps aren't right.

Or poop-covered blueberry popsicle.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11243434 - 10/14/09 01:41 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

I was thinking Psilocybe baeocystis myself, but its hard to tell in the sorry state they are in.  A microscopic examination would solve the mystery.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Workman]
    #11243672 - 10/14/09 02:46 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

All of the caps of the pins and small mushrooms growing right now are an olive brown, not the caramel brown I see in pictures of cyanescens, but I've never actually handled cyanescens before, or baeos for that matter, so I could be wrong. Tomorrow I will post pictures of some of the larger pins. At the very least though, I'm safe to eat them? Also, can anyone answer my question as to how best to store spore prints?


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heaven; your very sparingness in sin crieth unto heaven!
  Where is the lightning to lick you with its tongue? Where is the
frenzy with which you should be inoculated?
  Behold, I teach you the Superman. He is this lightning. He is this frenzy."
~ Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: imachameleon]
    #11243697 - 10/14/09 02:53 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

Try to get a picture of them in their natural habitat.

Store a clean spore print in a ziplock bag out of the light.

good luck and happy hunting!


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11247741 - 10/14/09 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

I funghi giovani nel loro proprio habitat:











Also I found some more victims of the rake that I missed the first few times. Here they are.

Piu vittime del rastrello:






I'll keep taking pics as my patch matures, and I plan on sending a sample to Workman for microscopic analysis.


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heaven; your very sparingness in sin crieth unto heaven!
  Where is the lightning to lick you with its tongue? Where is the
frenzy with which you should be inoculated?
  Behold, I teach you the Superman. He is this lightning. He is this frenzy."
~ Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: imachameleon]
    #11248137 - 10/14/09 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Nice find!

Psilocybe baeocystis, these photos confirm it IMO.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: shroom360]
    #11248838 - 10/14/09 10:33 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

shroom360 said:
Nice find!

Psilocybe baeocystis, these photos confirm it IMO.




I concur. Definitly Baeos.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11249272 - 10/14/09 11:45 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Nice! I was pretty sure they were Baeos, in fact that's what I wrote on the bag the first day I found them, after I dried them, albeit followed by a question mark. This is my first time picking mushrooms though, and I really wanted to get some confirmation. This website is wonderful. Thank you to everyone on this website who devotes their time to helping people like me learn about this. 

Are there no questions about the spore print color though? I'm a paranoid motherfucker  :bigblunt: :stoned2: and the more I look at my spore print the more I'm not sure what color it is. I think I'm just freaking myself out, but my gf says they're brown and that she doesn't see any purple, and it looks like Bretdaniel thinks they're brown too. The pictures look like what I've got, on my computer screen at least.

I'm also paranoid my mushies will be discovered by someone, they're so out in the open and so close to so much people traffic. I want to cover them up with leaves or something but then I'm afraid the rake will return.

How much do you think the potency of these guys will be affected by the damage/drying? Most of them are pretty banged up, and there's lots of blueing, which I understand results from the oxidization of Psilocin's OH group. PMOTW says these are quite potent, but lose a lot of potency in drying and from damage. I dried them all using a fan and froze them cause I thought that was supposed to preserve them, but it turns out I need to eat these guys fresh? Anyone have experience eating baeos before?


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heaven; your very sparingness in sin crieth unto heaven!
  Where is the lightning to lick you with its tongue? Where is the
frenzy with which you should be inoculated?
  Behold, I teach you the Superman. He is this lightning. He is this frenzy."
~ Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: imachameleon]
    #11249304 - 10/14/09 11:51 PM (8 years, 6 days ago)

They are almost positively Psilocybe baeocystis. They bruise blue, and have a purplish-brown sporeprint.

The habitat shots resemble every Baeo I have found greatly.

I have not bioassayed them yet.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11249723 - 10/15/09 12:48 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

i must live in a dead zone i spend 5 hours a day in the woods every day  for the last few years and i have not found a single cylaciben yet maybe it has a different look it pa  got is camo on


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: dice lv]
    #11249823 - 10/15/09 01:05 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

^^ wha?

Nice find.  I think it's better to be "paranoid" than not sometimes.  There seems to be some dark hue in the spore print.  I don't think it's just brown.  Whether it's purple or not is hard to tell.


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Re: Psilocybes? [Re: dice lv]
    #11249854 - 10/15/09 01:10 AM (8 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

dice lv said:
i must live in a dead zone i spend 5 hours a day in the woods every day  for the last few years and i have not found a single cylaciben yet maybe it has a different look it pa  got is camo on




Cylaciben? Thats awesome. :lolz0rz:


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