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PilzeEssen


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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237236 - 10/13/09 12:36 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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nastos said:
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PilzeEssen said: well fuck. 30 bucks for 2 tubs plus 25 for the pump and 12 for the air rocks... so about 70 bucks wasted...
i guess ill get some perlite and a new tub... the perlite method will be fine for casings, right? just gotta drill holes on every side but the bottom, 3 inches apart and fill with 4 inches of wet perlite, and its just always a constant 100%?
i tried growing mushrooms a few years ago and fucked up. (on a couple things) i made a FC with perlite, and it didnt seem to stay at 100. i think it was more like 75-85%. then i went ahead and fucked up more cause i was stupid... this time i want to get it right. so if i wasted 70 bucks. fuck it. i just want mushrooms to grow!!!!
you dont have to get a new tub
lol no shit im high as fuck. i dont know what i was thinking lol. i already spent time and money on them. it only makes sense to use them...
would it be worth me giving it a test run and emptying them out, and filling one up with 4 inches of wet perlite and testing it? or is it guaranteed? i tried it before like i said and it didnt get as humid as i would have liked. 70-80 isnt cutting it. and im working with cakes and casings. ive seen pics of casings in shotgun FCs so it must not be a problem.
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237250 - 10/13/09 12:39 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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perlite is like guarenteed perfect humidity with a misting here and there
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PilzeEssen


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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237253 - 10/13/09 12:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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well shit. looks like ill be spending a bunch of money on perlite now... i bet the people at the store wonder wtf im doing...
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237268 - 10/13/09 12:42 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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its not that expensive... return the air pump and use the money towards perlite
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PilzeEssen


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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237271 - 10/13/09 12:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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definitely dont have the receipt... oh well. i fuck up like usual. ill be surprised if i get a pin again. thats all i got last time...
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237275 - 10/13/09 12:44 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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perlite is like 10 bucks for a HHHHUUUGGGeeee bag and can be re-used over and over again.
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237286 - 10/13/09 12:47 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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PilzeEssen said: definitely dont have the receipt... oh well. i fuck up like usual. ill be surprised if i get a pin again. thats all i got last time...
dont be so down on ur self bro.. your setup could work we are just telling u what will work better.
another option would be geolite or lava rocks and tape up the holes and keep the pump
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PilzeEssen


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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237301 - 10/13/09 12:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i had lava rocks at first and ended up tossing them out.
i dont trust the hydro store in town. i think its a total setup. so i would have to drive 2 hours away to go to the other hydro shop to pick up some geolite. and even then, wouldnt it just be the exact same thing i have now?
maybe ill just somehow get someone elses car to get the geolite....
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237400 - 10/13/09 01:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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you paranoid much?
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PilzeEssen


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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237420 - 10/13/09 01:20 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes.
im going to use someone elses car and go get some geolite tomorrow.
what does adding geolite to the water do to make it better than just straight water? i take it helps raise the humidity level?
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237446 - 10/13/09 01:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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PilzeEssen said: well fuck. 30 bucks for 2 tubs plus 25 for the pump and 12 for the air rocks... so about 70 bucks wasted...
Did you just say you spent $15 dollars on a fruiting tub?
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humiditiy? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237479 - 10/13/09 01:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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PilzeEssen said: its a pmp minus the rocks. i dont see what the big deal is.
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11237485 - 10/13/09 01:35 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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PilzeEssen said: yes.
im going to use someone elses car and go get some geolite tomorrow.
what does adding geolite to the water do to make it better than just straight water? i take it helps raise the humidity level?
you want the water evaporating always perlite has a large surface area allowing maximum evaporation.. you do not want standing water with perlite you simple want it damp at all times
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237491 - 10/13/09 01:37 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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rocks, perlite whatever it is is better than standing water as it evaporates much easier of of said medium creating the oh so desired relative humidity
standing water evaps at a much slower rate
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anonjon
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11237962 - 10/13/09 06:29 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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If someone posts asking for help with their pmp,
why the fuck would you tell them to take it apart and turn it into a shotgun fc?
Get your heads out of your asses.
Here's the poormans pod tek link.
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Edited by anonjon (10/13/09 06:33 AM)
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Bert420
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: nastos]
#11238072 - 10/13/09 07:21 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'd say that since you already have the pmp FC already made.. i'd say just cover up all the holes.. add some geolite pellits in the bottom of your PMP and throw your caes in, i have a homemade PMP kinda like that and i was having trouble keeping humidity so someone told me to cover up the holes i had in it throw some geolite in the bottom keep the bubbler pump at the bottom and you'll be fine.. in fact you dont even really HAVE to get geolite, just so long as the water is never ever standing, as long as it has those bubblers in it your chance of contam are slim and none..
trust me.. works like a charm
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: Bert420]
#11238424 - 10/13/09 09:38 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bert420 said: just so long as the water is never ever standing, as long as it has those bubblers in it your chance of contam are slim and none.
This is commonly repeated- but if you think it through, you'll understand why it is wrong. Consider LC growth, for example.
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: Doc_T]
#11238495 - 10/13/09 09:55 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm curious why this nearly exact thread has to get repeated almost every day? Does nobody even read the boards any more? 
First of all, get a proper hygrometer that will calibrate to 99% with the damp towel method. Condensation, or the lack of it, is not in any way, shape, or form and indication of sufficient humidity for mushroom cultivation. Nor will you get condensation on the sides of a container with holes drilled in it. The holes exchange air(number ONE pinning trigger) and equalize the temperature differential. I've never seen condensation in a shotgun terrarium, even when it's at 100% humidity.
Second, get your lights closer to the tubs. Intensity of light decreases exponentially as you move the source farther away. Try to get it within a few inches of the tops. As long as it doesn't cause heating in the tubs, it's not too close.
Use the bubblers, perlite, geolite, whatever. The end result you want is lots of fresh air, bright fluorescent light on a day/night schedule, full colonization of the substrate, and normal room temperature. Provide those conditions and you'll grow mushrooms, regardless of how you go about getting there. RR
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: PilzeEssen]
#11238526 - 10/13/09 10:03 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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that chamber you posted will work as is, thats what all my fc's have been like and they work great for cubes & pans
these are just sitting above water + bubbles
 
ofcourse fanning and misting is still required
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nastos
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Re: isn't condensation on wall of FC sign of perfect humidity? [Re: anonjon]
#11238709 - 10/13/09 10:45 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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anonjon said: If someone posts asking for help with their pmp,
why the fuck would you tell them to take it apart and turn it into a shotgun fc?
Get your heads out of your asses.
Here's the poormans pod tek link.
ummmmm, because he drilled a thousand holes in it
did you even look at the pictures?
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