wwfjdraw said:

Ok I'm not getting it, what is the difference between a sgfc and a monotub? From what I can tell the only difference is that a mono tub has less but bigger holes stuffed with poly and a sgfc is just a tub without the poly with smaller holes and every 2 inches there is a hole so at least like 20 holes with a sgfc and like 8 max big poly filled holes with the monotub.

But again what is the difference other than a mono is better because the air is more controlled in design of the holes regarding air flow and the poly makes it sterile to prevent contam, but again, if it is better than why use the sgfc at all?

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wwfjdraw said:

Any idea Chingon why people still use SGFC when the poly MonoTub is better and sterile with poly?

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wwfjdraw said:

Chingon your my new favorite mentor, much better than doing nothing but wasting time by commenting stuff like (dude this thread is 7 years old man), nice when fellow members help each other instead of getting so drugged/shroomed/high to where they just randomly comment on the age of threads rather than what the thread is actually about. Lol. I'm not mad or complaining, it's getting high that this is all about anyways after all is it not.

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wwfjdraw said:

Any idea Chingon why people still use SGFC when the poly MonoTub is better and sterile with poly?

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Ziran said:

a SGFC is more for cakes, although either one could be used for cakes. Depending on how you want to go about it. You can fruit them in a monotub if you wanted. also the reason I said its a 7 year old thread is because you know, its a 7 year old thread and im sure those users got their answers a looooong time ago

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Or actually since Z posted it first, then C quoted it (in agreeance I am assuming), I guess ""I Third That"" instead of ""I second that"" is more politically correct. LOL )

Chingon said:

Ziran said:

a SGFC is more for cakes, although either one could be used for cakes. Depending on how you want to go about it. You can fruit them in a monotub if you wanted. also the reason I said its a 7 year old thread is because you know, its a 7 year old thread and im sure those users got their answers a looooong time ago

Ziran said:

I am new to this forum and saw the thread on the first page, so I clicked on it.  I wasn't aware that it was an old thread until you brought it up.  I am aware that your post was not directed at me, but having said that, sometimes people's questions can get answered better with what currently exists in any given thread and any new information they may seek in reference to it. 

When you use the search feature for most topics, there are quite a few threads that pop up.  Perhaps if wasn't considered to be taboo to bring up old threads, there would be fewer in the archive, and the ones that did exist, would have more information and questions answered.  Again, I am new to this forum, so I don't know protocol, but less seems like more when those looking for information havent found the answers (in name a number of threads here).  The topic and title of this thread did pertain to the questions that were asked.  I don't believe wwfjdraw needed to create a new thread for his questions, as they were on topic.

This post is just my thoughts, and perhaps not how this site operates.

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Well put, I second that to all newbies reading too.

wwfjdraw said:

I have a quick temper, I was out of line, I'm sorry Ziran.

So it doesn't do any good to use the big bag of poly I already bought when I un jar my cakes and put them in to the tub? Does it hurt? It must slow FAE since it is a filter.

I have another odd question (sorry but I really want to know as I am still learning), is more holes better or less holes? Because one has got to be better than the other over all for FAE or some other factor right?

And just to be certain I understand this correctly, it is ok to have perlite above a few holes so that the air can come up through the bottom of the perlite to get to the top right?

And thank you everyone for clearing up the curiosity about foil on the perlite. This is my first time growing shrooms, I just want the best guarentee for success, contamination scares me, I lost my last inoculation to mold. This time all 12 jars are looking nice and snow white, oh all jars are of the same syringe/strain.

So from what it sounds like, a 360 25+ hole design is actually the better one for FAE when compared to a 8 hole max tub right?

And from what it sounds like ,if I stuff the holes with polyfil like I have seen others due to their tubs it won't help none and is just a waste of time right?

And finally to confirm from what it sounds like, unless I got this wrong, it is best to have some perlite above the wall of the holes that are near the bottom to increase humidity right?

Thanks again for all your help/wisdom and putting up with me and all my newbie questions.

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Ziran said:

edit your post and on the 2nd quote part, delete my name and type whoevers is supposed to be there in.

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Ziran said:

edit your post and on the 2nd quote part, delete my name and type whoevers is supposed to be there in.

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Ziran said:

i think its a form of html code thats why.

in html coding it usually starts like this thou

<h1> example header </h1>

they just use [] instead

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Ziran said:

its pretty straight forward once you get used to it. post stuff in your journal and find out what all the buttons mean above the reply box

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wwfjdraw said:

This forum in general is the hardest I have ever navigated, I mean no disrespect to the person who designed the UI. GrassCity And FuckCombustion for example have been heaven in User Interface with an attractive navigation (less cluttered by comparison), although I admit the knowledge found here has been more helpful then there member-wise.

Darn, I have to tell you, I was really excited about having poly in the holes, it made me feel like I was going to increase chances of success with a job that I consider to be so easy, it seems like no work at all, (god putting poly in to holes seeming almost like fun, I feel like data scanning for life forms, happy over such an easy task) (how sad has my life become).

Even drilling on the bottom? Man with the perlite, I would think that would be over kill since misting is necessary, I wonder if one could prevent misting, by either drilling holes on all sides except the bottom and if a air pump tube submerged in a jar of water could avoid misting altogether as seen here:

https://sites.google.com/site/everythingfungi/mushroom-cultivation/indoor-growing#TOC-Fruiting

So if I do both perlite and the jar of water with the air pump, it should make sense to not have to mist it right?

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