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Popcorn MS
    #11236890 - 10/13/09 01:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So I have been using popcorn lately to start my MS before doing G2G.  I have some mad contaim issues and this seems to work for me.  The thing is that when I do the MS innoculations only the bottom of the jar starts colonizing.  Now what I would like to now is it better to shake the jars at 10-15% to distribute the myc faster thru out the jar?  It grows so dam slow on just the bottom.  My house sucks it takes a while for anything to colonize and contaims are everywhere.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11236913 - 10/13/09 01:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

With Popcorn, the kernals are so large that all the liquid rushes to the bottom. With cakes, and ime WBS cling to those spores better and all is not washed down. Just a theory, i've never worked with popcorn.

Are you shaking after inoculation?


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11236925 - 10/13/09 01:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yea i shake after inoculation.  exactly what you  are saying about the bigger kernels i realized that.  Its the fact that its smooth too.  Cause I have used other large grains and that doesnt happen


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11236936 - 10/13/09 01:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ive recently gotten into knocking up small 1/2 pints with MS, then going g2g to quart jars.

I have about 20 or so 1/2 pints from my first attempt at cakes. Now I stay away from cakes but the jars are still handy for g2g, LC's, grain LC's and such.

I can do 2-3 quart jars per 1/2 pint, and i'm all set to spawn to bulk from there.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11236946 - 10/13/09 01:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Very good idea i have 2-3 dozen also from when i use to do cakes i use some for lc's but that is a very good idea.  put them to use.  think ill soak some rye and try out some strains that I havent been able to use yet.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11236956 - 10/13/09 01:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Very good idea i have 2-3 dozen also from when i use to do cakes i use some for lc's but that is a very good idea.  put them to use.  think ill soak some rye and try out some strains that I havent been able to use yet.




Yep that's what I am doing. I made up three new syringes from prints I won from giveaways and contests.

Just like a cake test jar. If it is contaminant free, use it for g2g or a grain LC.
If not, you know your syringe is probably contaminated.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11236977 - 10/13/09 01:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I always thought a grain LC was where you took some grain and put it in enriched water and grew the LC.  But its just injecting water into the jar and shaking then sucking it back.  can you regrow the grain after?  Doesnt this fuck up the moisture content?


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11236999 - 10/13/09 01:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I always thought a grain LC was where you took some grain and put it in enriched water and grew the LC.  But its just injecting water into the jar and shaking then sucking it back.  can you regrow the grain after?  Doesnt this fuck up the moisture content?




Yes, it is injecting sterile water into the grain jar, shaking, and sucking it back up.

If you can get most of the water out, the myc will recover, and it too can be used for spawn.

With 1/2 pints though, there is not really much to spawn with.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11237020 - 10/13/09 01:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Use yogurt containers small ones and case


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11237080 - 10/13/09 02:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

1/2 pints for grain LC is my fav tek.  when I make a spore syringe thats the first thing I do is shoot 2cc in a grain jar and when its done make as many myc water syringes out of that I can get then let it recolonize to do it again.  I still have 10cc in my spore syringe plus 50+ myc syringes (thats only a 1quart jar or 500ml/cc of myc water) to do whatever I want with.
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12cc spore syringe / inoculate 6 - 1/2pint jars using 2cc of inoculant each.

get 500cc of myc water from 1 - 1/2pint jar X 6 = 3000ml/cc from the first colonizations. 

thats 300 - 10cc syringes on the first run from 1 MS syringe.:crazy2:


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11237130 - 10/13/09 02:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

18G is about 72quarts which is about 72L am I right?  You get 6oz from that?  The recipe that you gave fills a tub this big?  I use metric so everything is a little off for me.  I have only just started spawning to coir so pls bare with me.  A brick of coir is about 1.5 lb which is about .75kg.  Great tek BTW:thumbup:


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11237169 - 10/13/09 02:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Use yogurt containers small ones and case




Yeah could do that, then put it in one of those soda bottle terrariums to fruit.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11237186 - 10/13/09 02:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The recipe that you gave fills a tub this big?




gives you about 3.5"-4" of substrate depth in the mono. 
the rest of the space in the tub is your mushies self contained environment (humidity and FAE and room to grow all supplied by the bulk substrate).

put the FAE holes right at the level of your substrate and the rest just goes on its own (besides changing from colonizing(GE) to fruiting(FAE)).:stoned:


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11237199 - 10/13/09 02:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

LOL call those display pieces
Dam 13 shrooms thats very nice


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11237213 - 10/13/09 02:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

The recipe that you gave fills a tub this big?




gives you about 3.5"-4" of substrate depth in the mono. 
the rest of the space in the tub is your mushies self contained environment (humidity and FAE and room to grow all supplied by the bulk substrate).

put the FAE holes right at the level of your substrate and the rest just goes on its own (besides changing from colonizing(GE) to fruiting(FAE)).:stoned:




Do you mist/fan at all?


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11237258 - 10/13/09 02:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I start after the first flush, I dont dunk, I just pour a cup or so of water around the edges of the substrate then 24hrs later (using a battery filler bulb or turkey baster) I remove any excess water to avoid contams then give it a good mist and fan just enough to change the air in the tub and put the lid back on. 

depending on how much comes in on the 2nd flush I toss it after 2 flushes. 
you get 90% (of all your grow) in the first 2 flushes so out with the old and in with the new.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11237277 - 10/13/09 02:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That is so beautiful.  And those myc syringes they are just as quick as LC?


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11237280 - 10/13/09 02:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I figured out 2 flushes was best for me as well. Why put in the same amount of time for a meager third flush when you could have a fantastic first flush instead?

When putting the tub into fruiting, I dab off any excess water build up, and fan only for the first day. Then misting and fanning is done as needed.


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11237287 - 10/13/09 02:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You don't case this either?


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Re: Popcorn MS [Re: truskool]
    #11237288 - 10/13/09 02:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

have you had allot of contams with popcorn? i know popcorn has tons and tons of contams in em everytime i try it was really shotty.


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